NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
From Australia itbt.Funny to see a kiwi recomment him tho,altho tasmania is near new zealand.
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**Official** Australia in West Indies
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Whats ITBT don't know my net abrreviations.
Fact is white is ****e,we thought watson was ****e but he has grown.
But white is definitely a pile of doo doo too he proves otherwise.
Would love us select 2 promising spinners for bangladesh and then for the icc knckout trophy.
Their is a lot of competition for the one day spot.
And we have until 2010 /11 to get it right,Brad hogg is gone time we moved on.
PS michael clarke and andrew symmonds are nothing but part timers and should never be our no 1 spinner i don't buy that chris gayle argument.
Fact is white is ****e,we thought watson was ****e but he has grown.
But white is definitely a pile of doo doo too he proves otherwise.
Would love us select 2 promising spinners for bangladesh and then for the icc knckout trophy.
Their is a lot of competition for the one day spot.
And we have until 2010 /11 to get it right,Brad hogg is gone time we moved on.
PS michael clarke and andrew symmonds are nothing but part timers and should never be our no 1 spinner i don't buy that chris gayle argument.
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Not Whites fault Ponting rates his bowling...
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Clarke is better than a part time bowler. He's better than Casson, certainly, and Casson is a specialist.
vic_orthdox
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With regards to OD cricket, yes. But in Test cricket, he is no more than a part timer.
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I think that he's a part-timer in Test cricket because he doesn't get the bowling required to develop into a genuine allrounder. He's been impressive almost every time I've seen him bowl in Tests recently, and is far more consistent than a bowler I would classify as part-time. In essence I consider Clarke a part-timer only in terms of usage, rather than ability. He will never be of specialist spinner quality, but he can certainly develop into a genuine allrounder.
We have for every single match of the tour
irfan
State Captain
Fully AWTA. Clarke as a pure bowler > Casson, White, Hauritz, etc combined. Vastly underused in my opinion. What his bowling avg still sub 25-odd?
Jakester1288
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In test match he has the best bowling average in the Aussie team IIRC. Under 20 as well IIRC.
sideshowtim
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Well I dunno that he's better than all of those guys combined, but his bowling has certainly progressed and I'd rate it somewhere between 'part-timer' and 'good bowler'. One thing that I've noticed is that he rarely gets smashed. He is pretty damn accurate.
four_or_six
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I dunno what the impression is in Australia but from here it seems like he's in a sort of 'golden balls' can do no wrong, on and off the field, atm.
Pup doesn't have enough weapons to be something more than a very useful part timer
he is accurate, and thus if there is rough, can utilise it, but thats about it
I suspect he may have an arm ball, but i am not 100% sure.. he does straighten up though sometimes and thats the danger ball he bowls.. so thats something... but really his stock ball doesnt turn much either so yeaa
sanga1337
U19 Captain
just a bit above 20 now. Surprised his average was that low actually. Thought it would be around 26-27. Also surprising how in first class cricket he only has 27 wickets in 90 matches which suggests he's even more underbowled in first class cricket than at test level
dontcloseyoureyes
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One thing that certainly would help his figures is that he generally only gets a bowl when conditions suit him. If he was required to be a stock bowler and bowl loads of overs on all pitch types I'd say the average would push up close to 40, if not over.
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Exactly. Not to mention, his batting average would correspondingly decrease no doubt. Anything which takes away from his batting should not happen and if he was to bowl more regularly, I'm pretty certain that's what would happen.
Haddin has been flown back to Australia according to cricinfo
i hope he opens (Ronchi) perhaps would be wasted down there ?
so no Haddin for the rest of ODI series
he is so gunnish in middle order.... and reliable...
Aussies batting first AGAIN... thats 6/6.. and a handy toss to win i think as they say this is another subcontinental style pitch
i hope he opens (Ronchi) perhaps would be wasted down there ?
so no Haddin for the rest of ODI series
he is so gunnish in middle order.... and reliable...
Aussies batting first AGAIN... thats 6/6.. and a handy toss to win i think as they say this is another subcontinental style pitch
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Good on Gayle for admitting that he would have batted if he won the toss. Don't see that much these days.
Big changes for West Indies though. Powell, Browne and Chanders back, with Sarwan, Ramdin and Edwards out. I presume Ramdin is injured (he had some neck issues) because he played a pretty handy knock in the first match.
Big changes for West Indies though. Powell, Browne and Chanders back, with Sarwan, Ramdin and Edwards out. I presume Ramdin is injured (he had some neck issues) because he played a pretty handy knock in the first match.
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How embarrassing for Grenada.