Mohammad Asif held in Dubai

[James]

Stop producing morons and the world will stop commenting

A bit of an uncalled for generalization don't you think that causes offense to the Pakistan members.

Please kindly keep these sorts of comments to yourself.

 

[Craig]

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Me calling Asif dumber then Brad Hodge.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

I didn't ****ing produce him and I was not not into reproduction process when I was 3 .

The double negative only incriminates you further...

 

[FRAZ]

The double negative only incriminates you further...

He asked me to stop reproducing morons . I didn't get the essence of his post like as if he meant that Pakistanis are all the same people coming from the same negative source or whatever it was I never answered in a negative way .
Put yourself in my shoes and if some one says a gutter sentence about your ethnicity face to face then I guess that if you have a little self respect then you'll smash in his/her face so many times that you would love to make a map of your ethnic land on that gutter face with the blood lines all across that ugly face (In general thing) .
That's what it is and that's how it is and that's how I am and I am not retaliating as such if you will see my reply which was light hearted saying that I didn't re-produce any Pakistani like that ...
Sentences like that show inner filthiness and targeted posting on certain occasions at certain times ...
I don't wanna be filthier in posting such things but honestly this is the thing which pisses me off and has pissed me off in the past and If I ever see any gutter sentence about any one's ethnicity or land or whatever and if a person just keeps on showing filth again and again then I feel helpless and I feel like having no one to retaliate with in person and ........... Can't explain more .........

 

[LongHopCassidy]

I was only joshing, Fraz.

I agree that social was very much in the wrong there.

 

[Isolator]

I really hate the idea that an entire country (Pakistan for instance) "produces morons". No one country can have a widescale effect of producing morons

People are not equal.

 

[SJS]

A bit of an uncalled for generalization don't you think that causes offense to the Pakistan members.

Please kindly keep these sorts of comments to yourself.

Totally agree. The comment is uncalled for and offensive.

 

[Jono]

Me calling Asif dumber then Brad Hodge.

Haha had a feeling you may be referring to Hodge, just wasn't sure.

Well Hodge sounds dumber when he speaks, but as far as I know he's never tried anything as dumb as this.

 

[Jono]

I didn't ****ing produce him and I was not not into reproduction process when I was 3 .

 

[social]

I really hate the idea that an entire country (Pakistan for instance) "produces morons". No one country can have a widescale effect of producing morons, it's an utterly ridiculous idea. There's such a massive difference in more important circumstances than nationality as regards moron-production as to make any attempt to correlate nationality with moron-production belief-defyingly stupid.

"Some" Pakistani cricketers behaviour is less than stellar and has been for years

Unfortunately, every time they are criticised for it, certain people claim racism, persecution etc in an effort to deflect attention away from the real issue

The PCB generally backs the offender, who then goes on to become a serial offender because they think they are above the law

In that regard, they are a "product" of the system

I apologise if I've offended anyone but have ZERO time for Asif IF he's guilty and believe that the PCB and some of that country's more misguided fans have got a hell of a lot to answer for.

Bottom line is that if you dont want the morons (who make up the vast minority) in the present and past Pakistani team to be criticised then punish them appropriately every time they step over the line

 

[Sanz]

"Some" Pakistani cricketers behaviour is less than stellar and has been for years

Can be said about players from every country.

Unfortunately, every time they are criticised for it, certain people claim racism, persecution etc in an effort to deflect attention away from the real issue

And ??

The PCB generally backs the offender, who then goes on to become a serial offender because they think they are above the law

So does ACB.

In that regard, they are a "product" of the system

Which system is Andrew Symonds from ? Which System is Shane Warne from ?

I apologise if I've offended anyone but have ZERO time for Asif IF he's guilty and believe that the PCB and some of that country's more misguided fans have got a hell of a lot to answer for.

Is that really an apology..I apologize but yada yada yada, Yap yap yap.

Bottom line is that if you dont want the morons (who make up the vast minority) in the present and past Pakistani team to be criticised then punish them appropriately every time they step over the line

There you go again. First you call them morons then qualify it by saying that they make up the vast minority. Which country doesn't have is vast minority of morons ?

 

[TT Boy]

What’s the current situation with Asif?
Pakistan has good economic/diplomatic ties with the UAE so presumably it must be rather serious or Asif would be back in Pakistan or even in Bangladesh by now?

 

[LongHopCassidy]

Which system is Andrew Symonds from ? Which System is Shane Warne from ?

Are you implying Symonds is involved with drug taking? Fair enough on Warne, maybe (the fact it was a legal drug notwithstanding), but to suggest Symonds is on a par with these two because of some on-field vendetta really grates with me.

 

[duffer]

Are you implying Symonds is involved with drug taking? Fair enough on Warne, maybe (the fact it was a legal drug notwithstanding), but to suggest Symonds is on a par with these two because of some on-field vendetta really grates with me.

I think it's more a comment on their "unsavoury" character/behaviour rather than anything else.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

I think it's more a comment on their "unsavoury" character/behaviour rather than anything else.

Righto, fair enough. I just saw Asif and Warne and jumped to conclusions.

 

[FRAZ]

Is that really an apology..I apologize but yada yada yada, Yap yap yap.

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This sentence is actually applicable upon all the repeat offenders .

 

[haroon510]

What’s the current situation with Asif?
Pakistan has good economic/diplomatic ties with the UAE so presumably it must be rather serious or Asif would be back in Pakistan or even in Bangladesh by now?

and this doesn't look good as well

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/354244.html

 

[social]

Totally agree. The comment is uncalled for and offensive.

SJS, just how is it any more offensive than this:

"It doesn't change the fact that things have been getting from murky and murkier to dirty and dirtier in the sub-continent in general and Pakistan in particular."

Now I know, because it's a cricket forum, that you are referring to cricket administration.

However, if I was a pedant with blinkers on, I would demand an apology based on the claim that you had insulted the entire subcontinent and its' 1.5 billion plus inhabitants

 

[SJS]

SJS, just how is it any more offensive than this:

"It doesn't change the fact that things have been getting from murky and murkier to dirty and dirtier in the sub-continent in general and Pakistan in particular."

Now I know, because it's a cricket forum, that you are referring to cricket administration.

However, if I was a pedant with blinkers on, I would demand an apology based on the claim that you had insulted the entire subcontinent and its' 1.5 billion plus inhabitants

Dear Social,

I did not say anything like "this is more (or less) offensive than that. I just thought it was offensive PERIOD. It has nothing to do with FRAZ, his posts, to you to others, their offensive nature or otherwise etc etc etc.

Its offensive by itself to say something that effectively condemns a race, a people, a nation.

I can understand that you said it in the heat of the moment (not a justification mind you) but having said it, the thing to do is to say I am sorry and move on. No side sentences and attempts to explain. Its my humble opinion that this is the sensible thing to do. Its up to you to do that or go on with the pointless discussion.

Cheers.

PS I have just replied to the first sentence of your post and haven't even seriously read the rest of it since it is irrelevant. Similarly, I just came across your comment after James commented on it and I went back and saw it, I haven't read yours and FRAZ's posts on the subject either. For me that would have been irrelevant too and it honestly doesn't interest me. I hope you can see where I am coming from.

 

[SJS]

by the way, its not that I cant reply to the rest of your post but it doesnt seem to be worthwhile for me to do so. I completely agree that you may take the same view about this or any other post of mine or of any other poster. Its your prerogative.