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jammay123

State 12th Man
Don't see why, he's a significantly better gloveman than Hopkins IMO and Hopkins is a bit of a liability with the bat.
like the sangakarra situation maybe they think they can get more from him if he dosent have the burden of wicket keeping
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
like the sangakarra situation maybe they think they can get more from him if he dosent have the burden of wicket keeping
At least Prasanna Jayawardene is as good at wicketkeeping as Sangakkara is - if Edmunds is to be believed, McCullum > Hopkins as a wicketkeeper.

All the same, though, it seems Hopkins had to play this game, whether McCullum played as well or not (and consensus so far seems to be that he shouldn't have).
 

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At least Prasanna Jayawardene is as good at wicketkeeping as Sangakkara is - if Edmunds is to be believed, McCullum > Hopkins as a wicketkeeper.
Hopkins isn't even seen as the best gloveman in Auckland judging by the way that team looked during the last NZ summer - Reece Young usually did the keeping and Hopkins was bizarrely included as a specialist bat.
 

99*

International Debutant
That sort of thing is so annoying in its way - when someone who has been going badly gets it right and is let down by his fielders \ the Umpire.

It doesn't "always" happen the way some people say, else no-one who was failing to get wickets would ever start getting them again, but it's always such an injustice on the occasions it does.
What's worse is that it happened to Martin, one of the hardest working and genuine 'team-player' in the squad. One can only hope he's gets back into some form.
 

Leslie1

U19 Captain
What's worse is that it happened to Martin, one of the hardest working and genuine 'team-player' in the squad. One can only hope he's gets back into some form.
I'm not sure he's ever not in form this season. Consistently our best performing bowler (without getting injured).

If only he is not so 'unlucky' with the wicket department.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Yeah, absolutely. Jayawardene has really improved the last year or so.

Just like Sangakkara did between 2000 and 2002, indeed. When he first took the gloves from Kaluwitharana it was stupid, he was a shocking wicketkeeper. No-one could fathom why Kaluwitharana didn't play in the SL-England Tests in 2000/01. But by the time he came to England in 2002, he was exemplary.

Funniest thing is, Kaluwitharana had come to England in 1998 with the 18-year-old Jayawardene as his deputy. Sangakkara wasn't anywhere to be seen, as batsman or wicketkeeper (if he was even keeping in those days). He didn't appear until Ranatunga was on his way out.

I still wish Sangakkara had never taken the gloves though. We'll just never know what might have happened with his batting had he not done so.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
And back at Trent Bridge, this is really, really boring cricket - it's almost as bad as Twenty20. Nothing more dreary than watching tailenders score runs. Get out and get bowling at batsmen FFS.
 

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It's amazing how much Sangakkara's batting improved when he stopped keeping.

With McCullum though I don't think it'd happen - he looks at home behind the stumps but in the field he looks like he doesn't know what to do with his hands. And looking at the footage they showed, it seems he's doing a lot of work on slip catches that he could be spending on his batting.
 

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Oh right, I can't have sound on here at work so it was a bit weird to watch without hearing an explanation of what was going on!
 

Richard

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It's amazing how much Sangakkara's batting improved when he stopped keeping.
Thing is though - and this is what frustrates me - that he's not had two phases, one where he kept and one where he didn't. He didn't keep early on, then he did, then he didn't, then he did, and now currently he isn't again.

I wish he'd never been given the gloves, then we'd have known for sure exactly how good he would or wouldn't have been had he never had to worry about it.

Odd thing is, he much, much prefers to keep than not keep.
 

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