***Official*** English Domestic Season 2008

[steds]

Came up with something along the lines of
Sutcliffe
Stubbings
Wood (the one at Glamorgan, not the one Pitt's in love with)
Sadler
Middlebrook
Pipe +
Chapple
Batty
Plunkett
Sidebottom
Silverwood

Dozens of bowlers. Wharf, Dawson, Keedy, loads of no name seamers. Couldn't find too many batsmen though. AFAIK, the only other is Chilton.

 

[TheEpic]

I'm from Middlesbrough and I dunno...I definitely don't class it as part of Yorkshire. Yes, Wikipedia informs me it is within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, but in reality its in Teesside. My address says Cleveland. There are no historical or cultural links with Yorkshire and I would definitely say Plunkett belongs more in Durham as its a North East county and I know the cricket supporting people around here generally gravitate towards supporting Durham.

Just my perspective.

Also, this may seem a small thing but PLEASE, as someone who has to suffer this on a regular basis! It is NOT Middlesborough. It is not spelt like this or pronounced like this. It is infact Middlesbrough.

Please people. A little respect. We don't have anything else.

 

[stumpski]

Chris Old was born there IIRC, and played for Yorkshire when they only had players born in the county. Maybe the county borders were different around 1948?

 

[steds]

My address says Cleveland.

Cleveland hasn't existed for over ten years.

Cleveland: boundary changes
3.—(1) The county of Cleveland shall be abolished.

 

[FBU]

Dav seemed really keen on him judging by his posts earlier this thread. Not exactly out-and-out young though - he'll be 26 by the end of this season, can't remember if he's England-qualified yet or not.

Also in that game, Mohammad Yousuf finally strikes form. Obviously someone of his class was never likely to be kept down long, but it had to be against us he struck form didn't it?

Horton has qualified. He needs another couple of seasons though to develop a bigger shot selection and needs to be playing in the one day games. Only gets chosen if there are injuries.

 

[steds]

Only gets chosen if there are injuries.

Not true. Played 13 of our 16 Championship matches last season and established himself at the top of the order at the back end of the season. Opened in all of our FC games this season too, IIRC.

Never was as high on Horton as Dav was, but he won me over last season. Looks the future for us opening.

 

[Pup Clarke]

One day cricket...

 

[steds]

Can't see why he "needs" to play One Day cricket, itbt. First, Lancs won't pick him if he won't score runs; then there's the bit where I point out that playing limited overs cricket probably won't make him a better player in the longer form of the game, so why bother. Some people just aren't the limited overs type of player (see Vaughan, Michael), and it looks like Horton's one of them.

 

[Goughy]

I'm from Middlesbrough and I dunno...I definitely don't class it as part of Yorkshire. Yes, Wikipedia informs me it is within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, but in reality its in Teesside. My address says Cleveland. There are no historical or cultural links with Yorkshire and I would definitely say Plunkett belongs more in Durham as its a North East county and I know the cricket supporting people around here generally gravitate towards supporting Durham.

Just my perspective.

Also, this may seem a small thing but PLEASE, as someone who has to suffer this on a regular basis! It is NOT Middlesborough. It is not spelt like this or pronounced like this. It is infact Middlesbrough.

Please people. A little respect. We don't have anything else.

Both Clough and Revie were from there and both were Yorkshire.

On the topic of his loyalities Clough said "I may be a Yorkshireman but I'm Derby through and through "

 

[TheEpic]

Aye, I think it probably was classed as part of Yorkshire in the past, I remember there was an amount of controversy about Redcar should be classed as part of Yorkshire. Its just not considered that way here now. So even if Middlesbrough is technically a part of Yorkshire, a lad as young as Plunkett definitely won't have felt that way. Even seemingly insignifcant things like the accent have much more in common with the Durham folk than those in Yorkshire.

When people ask me where I'm from I tend to say Middlesbrough or Teesside. Middlesbrough Football Club do not have Yorkshire derbies. They have Tyne-Tees derbies. The local news here covers the Tyne, Wear and Tees regions. We are always grouped in the North East. Plunkett would have definitely have felt more affiliation to Durham than Yorkshire.

 

[Goughy]

I have emailed Durham and Plunkett and await a reply on the subject

Hi Ellen,

Im writing an article about Liam Plunkett. There is 1 question I would like to find out the answer to. It would be great if you could help me.

Obviously he his loyal to Durham CCC and proud to play for the club. However, given he is born in Middlesbrough in Yorkshire does he class himself as a Yorkshireman?

Your help on the subject would be appreciated.

Yours in cricket

 

[Richard]

Also, this may seem a small thing but PLEASE, as someone who has to suffer this on a regular basis! It is NOT Middlesborough. It is not spelt like this or pronounced like this. It is infact Middlesbrough.

True that.

 

[Richard]

Came up with something along the lines of
Sutcliffe
Stubbings
Wood (the one at Glamorgan, not the one Pitt's in love with)
Sadler
Middlebrook
Pipe +
Chapple
Batty
Plunkett
Sidebottom
Silverwood

Dozens of bowlers. Wharf, Dawson, Keedy, loads of no name seamers. Couldn't find too many batsmen though. AFAIK, the only other is Chilton.

I'd only class a Yorkshire reject as someone who'd played for the county. And as I say - are Chilton, Chapple and Keedy not simply people who were born there but are in fact Lancastrian having grown-up in said county?

Out of those lot the only ones who've played for Yorkshire are Wood, Middlebrook, Batty, Dawson, Silverwood, Wharf and Sidebottom. Not sure if any were on the books at younger ages.

 

[Richard]

Of course. It is part of Yorkshire and Yorkshire played there for generations.

Why would it be anything else?

Never knew we'd played there TBH but as I say, I've always thought of it as more Teeside\Durham than anything else, certainly never Yorkshire. Had we moved from Wakefield to Middlesbrough instead of to Morpeth, I'd still have felt we'd left Yorkshire and moved to "the NorthEast".

 

[Goughy]

I'd only class a Yorkshire reject as someone who'd played for the county. And as I say - are Chilton, Chapple and Keedy not simply people who were born there but are in fact Lancastrian having grown-up in said county?

Out of those lot the only ones who've played for Yorkshire are Wood, Middlebrook, Batty, Dawson, Silverwood, Wharf and Sidebottom. Not sure if any were on the books at younger ages.

You dont have to have played for Yorks to be a Yorks reject (nothing nasty in using that term). I played a fair bit of cricket with Pipe in the Yorks system. He didnt play for Yorks as he was deemed not good enough and was forced to move on.

Same story for many.

 

[steds]

Keedy played for Yorkshire. And considering the thing that brought the subject up was the number of Yorkshire born players in today's side, I took that as the criteria. I think you'd struggle to get an all Yorkshire-born ex-YCCC side.

 

[Langeveldt]

Pretty horrible argument, whether they were born in Yorkshire or not.. Thats like saying Andrew Strauss should feel affiliated towards the Highveld Lions..

FFS, why do I have Pinkcupid.com asking me if I want to meet single lesbians in my area?

 

[Richard]

You dont have to have played for Yorks to be a Yorks reject (nothing nasty in using that term). I played a fair bit of cricket with Pipe in the Yorks system. He didnt play for Yorks as he was deemed not good enough and was forced to move on.

Same story for many.

Keedy played for Yorkshire. And considering the thing that brought the subject up was the number of Yorkshire born players in today's side, I took that as the criteria. I think you'd struggle to get an all Yorkshire-born ex-YCCC side.

As I say - I'd classify being "Yorkshire" as having grown-up in the county. I wasn't born there, was born in Powys, but I still classify myself as Yorkshireman more than anything else, because I moved there at 3 months of age and my first memories come from there.

If you've lived there from an early age - eg, Michael Vaughan - you're a Yorkshireman for my money. And if you were born there and moved away at the age of three and have lived in (for instance) Leicestershire until the age of 17 when you get your county full-time contract, you're not a Yorkshire reject for my money.

But as pointed-out, someone who played in age-group sides then moved away at the age of (say) 16 or 17, or even 22 or 23, because you couldn't get a first-team game, that would classify as reject status.

 

[Richard]

Pretty horrible argument, whether they were born in Yorkshire or not.. Thats like saying Andrew Strauss should feel affiliated towards the Highveld Lions..

As I say - big difference between Strauss and the likes of Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietersen.

FFS, why do I have Pinkcupid.com asking me if I want to meet single lesbians in my area?

'Cos Ads By Google is a strange thing.

 

[wpdavid]

FFS, why do I have Pinkcupid.com asking me if I want to meet single lesbians in my area?

Probably because the attached one are no fun at all.