**Official** New Zealand in England

[Pratters]

Haha, England.

 

[chalky]

All over I know we seemed to have focused on England ****eness but New Zealand where excellent. When did Ian O Brian become the next incarnation of Shaun Pollock? His line & lengh where impecable.

 

[Richard]

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[Nate]

Looking forward to this next innings. Hoping the Kwis consolidate.

EDIT: Apart from his obvious impact with the bat, Taylor's slip catching has been crucial.

 

[meatspx]

Has Oram been off the field for his right shoulder injury for long?

Who will bat no. 6 for New Zealand if he has to come in late along with Flynn?

 

[BoyBrumby]

D*Ream over. 202ao. Broad's ambition finally gets the better of him. At least he showed some aggressive intent. It's like beating Australia by playing positive cricket never happened. Holding just made the point about our top six playing for self-preservation & he has a point; my question is why? Strauss was the last batsman dropped on form & that lasted all of three tests. They have job security, so why not try to take the attack to the oppo on the odd occasion?

 

[_Ed_]

All over I know we seemed to have focused on England ****eness but New Zealand where excellent.

Thanks for that. It's a bit frustrating that whenever we play really good cricket it's put down to the opposition. Granted, England were pretty average this morning, but NZ deserves credit too.

 

[Craig]

In fairness, Taylor is not the typical New Zealand batsman.

What is a typical New Zealand batsman? Some people are going to have to learn that shock horror that New Zealand has outplayed teams and they are doing it do England, just like if Australia beat a team is by outplaying them.

 

[Richard]

All over I know we seemed to have focused on England ****eness but New Zealand where excellent. When did Ian O Brian become the next incarnation of Shaun Pollock? His line & lengh where impecable.

Far more good bowling than bad batting for mine. New Zealand's bowling has been so much better than England's so far it's untrue. Vettori completely outbowled MSP - people said, obviously, that England should've tried to hit Vettori off his length, and had they tried one'd probably have gone straight up. If MSP had bowled as Vettori has he'd have got a bucketfull when NZ tried doing that to him.

Obviously, you expect Oram to outbowl Anderson. Martin and Broad still wicketless and Mills obviously just grabbed the last two, but for O'Brien to comfortably outbowl Sidebottom is a real achievement.

 

[Richard]

D*Ream over. 202ao. Broad's ambition finally gets the better of him. At least he showed some aggressive intent. It's like beating Australia by playing positive cricket never happened. Holding just made the point about our top six playing for self-preservation & he has a point; my question is why? Strauss was the last batsman dropped on form & that lasted all of three tests. They have job security, so why not try to take the attack to the oppo on the odd occasion?

Because the bowling didn't let them. It might sound hard to believe, but yes - New Zealand can and did bowl better and more accurately than Australia in 2005 did. And, yes, they caught far better too.

 

[Manee]

All over I know we seemed to have focused on England ****eness but New Zealand where excellent. When did Ian O Brian become the next incarnation of Shaun Pollock? His line & lengh where impecable.

It was quite extraordinary. They showed his hawkeye pitch map against right handers and all of the deliveries bar one was in the corridor.

 

[Leslie1]

J Coney's comments about Pieterson - COMPLETELY AGREE!!

 

[Craig]

**** I have work tomorrow and I have to get up early. But I feel as though I will miss something if I leave.

 

[Richard]

It was quite extraordinary. They showed his hawkeye pitch map against right handers and all of the deliveries bar one was in the corridor.

I wish we could see the corresponding one for his two games against South Africa. I'd bet it was a bigger contrast between two games for the same bowler as you'll ever see.

 

[chalky]

J Coney's comments about Pieterson - COMPLETELY AGREE!!

What did he say?

 

[Tim]

Well here we go..I reckon they'll be looking for 200 - 250 on top of what they already lead by.

 

[Richard]

Reckon we'll get 4-5 overs before Lunch. Nothing much can happen in that time.

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[99*]

So what'd you think a total NZ will be looking for before making England bat again? I'd say 450-500.

Conflicted between watching the GP or this. Argh!

 

[Halfpast_Yellow]

LOL at the Banter between Bumble & Ian Smith

McCullum didn't exactly do an Afridi there.

Is a summary of what was said possible?

Yeah credit to the bowlers, I think it would be safe to say the English were mostly out to good balls/Vettori? Seems so from cricinfo. Not the easiest thing in the world to show positive intent vs good test match bowling and it seems the boys turned it up on England today.

 

[Craig]

Reckon we'll get 4-5 overs before Lunch. Nothing much can happen in that time.

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