Tom Halsey
International Coach
Don't have a lot of choice if it's ingrained into you. If it isn't, then you may have a point.And for everyone that "Supports" a Man Utd or Liverpool as opposed to their local team
Don't have a lot of choice if it's ingrained into you. If it isn't, then you may have a point.And for everyone that "Supports" a Man Utd or Liverpool as opposed to their local team
Yeah, Wigan-St. Helens is where it's at.Football rivalries are for girls.
What about those who've moved around the country and have had 3 or 4 local teams and no affinity with any? What about those whose local team plays in the D Division West?And for everyone that "Supports" a Man Utd or Liverpool as opposed to their local team
So what gives them an affinity with Man Utd or Liverpool?What about those who've moved around the country and have had 3 or 4 local teams and no affinity with any? What about those whose local team plays in the D Division West?
Quality mate. I bet that experience stays with you longer than any match on TV.Hate going to Watch United, not had good form of it lately. Was there when we lost to Portsmouth in the cup, There for the draw with Reading, there when
Best moment for mine at OT was against Maccabi Haifa, we get a last min penalty in front of the Stretford End, where i was sat (was about 3 rows above the crossbar, dead centre). Beckham steps up, crowd bursts out in unison 'DIEGO!!!' as the useless Uruguayan woman hadnt scored for us by then. Beckham starts laughing and chucks the ball to Forlan..... Have to say when he struck that pen, my first reaction was to duck, not cheer.
Unfortunately i no longer have my 'I saw Forlan score' T-shirt....
See, this is what annoys me. I know you've said you should've qualified your statement, and good on you, as that's just what I mean - too often people group those like me in with glory-seekers. Yes, there's &%$£loads of glory-seekers who support us, but it is not even close to being the case that everyone who doesn't live in Manchester and supports Man Utd is a glory-seeker. And the way so many people talk, it is. It's ridiculous. The second you answer the "who do you support?" question to a non-Man Utd fan you almost always get the "uh, another glory-seeker" look or thought (and you can tell when they're thinking it). I hate it, I really do.So what gives them an affinity with Man Utd or Liverpool?
In 99% of cases I dare say there is a football league or Premiership relatively local (i.e. more local than one of the big teams).
I should have qualified my statement a bit more really though.
Obviously if there is a long standing family support, or you have moved away from the area then I can understand following the big club. But for me supporting means actually trying to go to some matches and you know actually support your team. What I don't get is those who live miles away from the club they "support", have never seen a game live never mind go regularly yet try & revel in the clubs' success. I would call it glory following.
I don't know anyone can feel anything for a club that you don't see regularly if at all. You get the emtional attachment from going to the ground experiencing the atmosphere living every moment of the game with your mates next to you. I think you will this attidue is quite common of people who support less fashionable clubs.
For all thoses glory followers who never get to see the game live I pity you because no matter how many league titles or european cups your team wins it will never be as good as Hartlepool Utd beating the Darlo scum 3-0 last year, Why? Because I was there.
Yeah, inter-woolyback rivalries are where it's atFootball rivalries are for girls.
Dont worry, I'm with you. Its us against the world.Liverpool FC
Surprised there aren't many Liverpool fans on this forum though........
In which case I would agree.Obviously if there is a long standing family support, or you have moved away from the area then I can understand following the big club. But for me supporting means actually trying to go to some matches and you know actually support your team. What I don't get is those who live miles away from the club they "support", have never seen a game live never mind go regularly yet try & revel in the clubs' success. I would call it glory following.
So what gives them an affinity with Man Utd or Liverpool?
In 99% of cases I dare say there is a football league or Premiership relatively local (i.e. more local than one of the big teams).
I should have qualified my statement a bit more really though.
Obviously if there is a long standing family support, or you have moved away from the area then I can understand following the big club. But for me supporting means actually trying to go to some matches and you know actually support your team. What I don't get is those who live miles away from the club they "support", have never seen a game live never mind go regularly yet try & revel in the clubs' success. I would call it glory following.
I don't know anyone can feel anything for a club that you don't see regularly if at all. You get the emtional attachment from going to the ground experiencing the atmosphere living every moment of the game with your mates next to you. I think you will this attidue is quite common of people who support less fashionable clubs.
For all thoses glory followers who never get to see the game live I pity you because no matter how many league titles or european cups your team wins it will never be as good as Hartlepool Utd beating the Darlo scum 3-0 last year, Why? Because I was there.
In fairness Rose, Chalky raises a decent point.
I'm not saying that you cant count yourself a fan if you dont go to all the games etc.. etc.. but I can understand what he says when he mentions fans who rave about how wonderful <insert team> are, and how great all the players are etc... when in effect they have just picked a hugely successful team out of thin air and claim to be one of the most passionate fans going.Yeah, I'd love to support Mahindra United, being one of what, one spectator in the stands.
yeah, he does tbf. Though i dont think it applies as much to foreign fans who support united as their 'english team' so to speak, though have to say i'd be surprised if they wernt supporting a team in their own nation n all, no matter what standard the league is. (fair few carribbean players have hit the prem over the years tbh)In fairness Rose, Chalky raises a decent point.
Should've picked a better team then.The second you answer the "who do you support?" question to a non-Man Utd fan you almost always get the "uh, another glory-seeker" look or thought (and you can tell when they're thinking it). I hate it, I really do.
I say that all the time to the sport fans I meet here. I've grown to hate Manchester United and Michael Schumacher because of the exact type of fans you've described there.I'm not saying that you cant count yourself a fan if you dont go to all the games etc.. etc.. but I can understand what he says when he mentions fans who rave about how wonderful <insert team> are, and how great all the players are etc... when in effect they have just picked a hugely successful team out of thin air and claim to be one of the most passionate fans going.
Please note i'm not accusing Xavier of this.