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*Official* English Football Season 2007-08

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just what you called the european competitions sounds like you didn't get the licensing for them.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Question:

The top 4 teams get Euro Championship spots the next 3 get Euro Cup spots and if you win any of the cups (League/FA) you get a Euro Cup spot?
I'll be as brief as I can:

1st & 2nd in the EPL get a spot in the group stage of the Champions League
3rd & 4th* get places in the 3rd qualifying round for the Champions League; wins get them into the group stage, defeats into the 1st round of the UEFA cup.
5th gets a place in the 1st round of the UEFA Cup.
Winning the League Cup gets you into the 1st round of the UEFA Cup, but if the winning team qualifies for Europe by finishing in one of the top 5 places this spot then goes to the 6th placed team.
Winning the FA Cup gets a UEFA Cup spot, but if the winners have already qualified the spot goes firstly to the runners-up; if they in turn have already qualified too (as with ManUre last year) the spot goes to the 7th placed team.

* the only proviso here is that if a team who finishes outside the top four wins the Champions League they go into next year's CL & the 4th placed team miss out.
 

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
I'll be as brief as I can:

1st & 2nd in the EPL get a spot in the group stage of the Champions League
3rd & 4th* get places in the 3rd qualifying round for the Champions League; wins get them into the group stage, defeats into the 1st round of the UEFA cup.
5th gets a place in the 1st round of the UEFA Cup.
Winning the League Cup gets you into the 1st round of the UEFA Cup, but if the winning team qualifies for Europe by finishing in one of the top 5 places this spot then goes to the 6th placed team.
Winning the FA Cup gets a UEFA Cup spot, but if the winners have already qualified the spot goes firstly to the runners-up; if they in turn have already qualified too (as with ManUre last year) the spot goes to the 7th placed team.

* the only proviso here is that if a team who finishes outside the top four wins the Champions League they go into next year's CL & the 4th placed team miss out.
And this state of play only persists for this season. Next season there'll be sweeping changes. (Though the only one that affects England is that the 3rd team goes directly into the CL and the league cup/6th placed spot would be in the final qualifying round of the wafer cup.)
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
How do you justify that statement? Tevez wouldn't have controlled the ball for him...
Haha no son. I am simply talking about his "total control" over his first touch when playing alone up front as opposed to playing with a second striker which in turn affects his finishing. You look at games he played up front recently vs Switzerland, France, Livepool its like he is a bit tentative & misses some absolute sitters i don't know if its because he has to track back into mid-field more often or the amount of long balls that comes to him but the control he normal exhibits when playing in a 4-4-2 formation isn't there.


Anyway must say i'm very disappointed for Matthew Taylor after such a superb season @ Pompey last season (highlight by his performance vs United @ Fratton park the best my a natural british left-winger other than Giggs in years), he lost his first team place thanks to Redknapp love affair with African players & then was sold it was if Redknapp didn't appreciate him. Now looking at the highlights of his performance vs Bolton with them almost surely about to relegated its a great shame. Hopefully Capello & a decent club i.e newcastle recognizes his talents since he should be in the international setup.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Anyway must say i'm very disappointed for Matthew Taylor after such a superb season @ Pompey last season (highlight by his performance vs United @ Fratton park the best my a natural british left-winger other than Giggs in years), he lost his first team place thanks to Redknapp love affair with African players & then was sold it was if Redknapp didn't appreciate him. Now looking at the highlights of his performance vs Bolton with them almost surely about to relegated its a great shame. Hopefully Capello & a decent club i.e newcastle recognizes his talents since he should be in the international setup.
Redknapp's love affair with African players had nothing to do with it. You'll notice that none of the African players signed during Taylor's time at the club were left-wingers or left-backs.

Taylor is a very good player, but his sale was for the benefit of everyone involved. He wasn't getting games at Pompey, he wasn't performing regularly when he did. Take it from me, someone who has been watching him very closely for the last six years - since the injury which kept him out of the end of our promotion season and the beginning of our first season in the Premiership, he has not been the same player. He was sure-fire England material back then, but now I'd be surprised if he ever makes it that far. That long-term heel injury has destroyed a lot of his potential. A good player, but sadly (he was always one of my favourite Pompey players, and a nice guy too on the occasion I met him) not quite good enough.

Oh, and no, Newcastle are not a "good club". They haven't been "good" for about ten years. They're big, but not good.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
You know what pisses me off about Newcastle? All this "best fans in the world" bollocks.

Firstly, we beat them at St James in March/April 92, at St James' Park in Division 2 (now the Championship 8-) ) 3-2, and there were about 15,000 maybe 20,000 max there. Sure, not a bad attendance for the second tier, but City were getting 30,000+ in the third tier, Leeds and Forest regularly top 20,000 this season. Seems to me a lot of these "best fans in the world" weren't fans before they were in the Premiership. I know it's going back a while now, alas, manufactured big club for mine

Also, the best fans in the world wouldn't grumble if their team were winning boring. **** me, I see us win awful games 1-0 all the time, celebrate it with a few Guinness and feel on top of the world for a few hours. Those ****ing idiots would rather watch them get beat 5-4 playing 5 up front and spot keeper.

Grinds my gears actually. Thinking I might duplciate this post in OT, haven't had a good rant in ages.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Anyway must say i'm very disappointed for Matthew Taylor after such a superb season @ Pompey last season (highlight by his performance vs United @ Fratton park the best my a natural british left-winger other than Giggs in years), he lost his first team place thanks to Redknapp love affair with African players & then was sold it was if Redknapp didn't appreciate him. Now looking at the highlights of his performance vs Bolton with them almost surely about to relegated its a great shame. Hopefully Capello & a decent club i.e newcastle recognizes his talents since he should be in the international setup.
Jesus, Aussie. If you were the coach the likes of Lee Naylor would get a look in. Taylor’s a decent premiership pro, nothing more, nothing less. Also, Newcastle already has a gun left sided player, Jose Enrique...
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Jesus, Aussie. If you were the coach the likes of Lee Naylor would get a look in. Taylor’s a decent premiership pro, nothing more, nothing less. Also, Newcastle already has a gun left sided player, Jose Enrique...
I admit i haven't followed his career in depth (actually i haven't followed most football players career's in depth given i don't have the same passion for this sport as cricket). But i watched him fairly closely last season & for natural left-sided mid-fielders in England that i think would be international quality its only Taylor, Young & Walcott for me and given that he is more seaoned player than those two youngster i strongly believe if he had been given a chance to build on his form @ Pompey of last season Capello would have already picked him.

On Naylor yea yea i know he hasn't really gone through the ranks as other left-backs but the two times i saw him in CL football when United played them last season & vs Barcelona this season he looked competent. In the line of left-backs i rate him 4th behind Cole/Bridge/Baines since from what i've seen i reckon he should be above Shorey.



Barney Rubble said:
Redknapp's love affair with African players had nothing to do with it. You'll notice that none of the African players signed during Taylor's time at the club were left-wingers or left-backs.

Taylor is a very good player, but his sale was for the benefit of everyone involved. He wasn't getting games at Pompey, he wasn't performing regularly when he did. Take it from me, someone who has been watching him very closely for the last six years - since the injury which kept him out of the end of our promotion season and the beginning of our first season in the Premiership, he has not been the same player. He was sure-fire England material back then, but now I'd be surprised if he ever makes it that far. That long-term heel injury has destroyed a lot of his potential. A good player, but sadly (he was always one of my favourite Pompey players, and a nice guy too on the occasion I met him) not quite good enough.
No problem taking your word since you are a pompey fan. But as i just mentioned and for a while now i know what i saw from him last season (his performance vs United being the highlight) & given that Downing is still getting a look in when he is clearly not international quality while Young & Walcott all though great options for the future probably still not the finished article. If Mutari wasn't bought & Taylor could have been able to build on last seasons form i don't see why a good coach like Capello wouldn't have picked him already.



Barney Rubble said:
Oh, and no, Newcastle are not a "good club". They haven't been "good" for about ten years. They're big, but not good.
Matteh said:
Say whaaaaat?
When i say decent club i basically was refering to them as club that are regular in the premiership & not their performances. Basically a good enough place for a player like Taylor to play every week to get a good look at by Capello. Same progress i would wish for players like Kirkland & Heskey..



Anyway... already preparing to apply for tickets for a potential CL clash with Barcelona. Potentially that could be the most star studded game since Madrid where here in 03.
 
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Barney Rubble

International Coach
You know what pisses me off about Newcastle? All this "best fans in the world" bollocks.

Firstly, we beat them at St James in March/April 92, at St James' Park in Division 2 (now the Championship 8-) ) 3-2, and there were about 15,000 maybe 20,000 max there. Sure, not a bad attendance for the second tier, but City were getting 30,000+ in the third tier, Leeds and Forest regularly top 20,000 this season. Seems to me a lot of these "best fans in the world" weren't fans before they were in the Premiership. I know it's going back a while now, alas, manufactured big club for mine

Also, the best fans in the world wouldn't grumble if their team were winning boring. **** me, I see us win awful games 1-0 all the time, celebrate it with a few Guinness and feel on top of the world for a few hours. Those ****ing idiots would rather watch them get beat 5-4 playing 5 up front and spot keeper.

Grinds my gears actually. Thinking I might duplciate this post in OT, haven't had a good rant in ages.
Yeah, annoys me too. Just 'cause they're loud, annoying Geordie ****s doesn't make them good fans.
 

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