**Official** England in New Zealand

[NZTailender]

Think we should try for an entire page of Fleming avatars IMO.

 

[Prince EWS]

Hmmm does Geg want to reveal the trump card?

Not to mention my trump card. At least he supports New Zealand..

 

[Prince EWS]

Think we should try for an entire page of Fleming avatars IMO.

Ruined it. Sinclair FTW.

 

[NZTailender]

Prince MathEWSinclair; closet New Zealander? VITSTL.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Prince MathEWSinclair; closet New Zealander? VITSTL.

I believe there is a passport in the mail, so not so 'closet'.

 

[Flem274*]

First, we didn't lose that SL series, it was drawn.

If someone can be bothered, can they please drag up our record from the past ten years because according to the goldfish we haven't won against a serious test side (I take that to mean no WI, Bang or Zim) in ten years.

I seem to recall a victory in England in 1999 for a start..

 

[Leslie1]

Can we stop feeding the troll now?

Think we should try for an entire page of Fleming avatars IMO.

Too late. Sinclair once again ruins the party.

Not to mention my trump card. At least he supports New Zealand..

Hm.

 

[Prince EWS]

Prince MathEWSinclair; closet New Zealander? VITSTL.

...........


Has that time finally come? I never planned on it until the inevitable move to Hawke's Bay.

 

[Leslie1]

First, we didn't lose that SL series, it was drawn.

If someone can be bothered, can they please drag up our record from the past ten years because according to the goldfish we haven't won against a serious test side (I take that to mean no WI, Bang or Zim) in ten years.

I seem to recall a victory in England in 1999 for a start..

No. Sorry I really can't remember us having a victory in a test series (read above) stemming 10 years.

 

[NZTailender]

Should reverse the Craigos trend for mine.

 

[Prince EWS]

Should reverse the Craigos trend for mine.

When you start picking up Ian Smith's accent, something has to give.

 

[NZTailender]

No. Sorry I really can't remember us having a victory in a test series (read above) stemming 10 years.

England, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, India.

 

[Leslie1]

First, we didn't lose that SL series, it was drawn.

I'm referring to this one.

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/series/60661.html

Then again we won this one:

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/series/60782.html

Hm. We have won quite a few, just me not remembering them as well. Good god, I need to do more research.

 

[NZTailender]

Sigh.

Since 1st of Jan, 1998:

Zimbabwe in New Zealand Test Series 1997/98 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
New Zealand in Sri Lanka Test Series 1998 Sri Lanka 2-1 (3)
India in New Zealand Test Series 1998/99 New Zealand 1-0 (2)
South Africa in New Zealand Test Series 1998/99 South Africa 1-0 (3)
New Zealand in England Test Series 1999 New Zealand 2-1 (4)
New Zealand in India Test Series 1999/00 India 1-0 (3)
West Indies in New Zealand Test Series 1999/00 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (Australia in New Zealand) 1999/00 Australia 3-0 (3)
New Zealand in Zimbabwe Test Series 2000/01 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
New Zealand in South Africa Test Series 2000/01 South Africa 2-0 (3)
Zimbabwe in New Zealand Test Match 2000/01 drawn 0-0 (1)
Pakistan in New Zealand Test Series 2000/01 drawn 1-1 (3)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (New Zealand in Australia) 2001/02 drawn 0-0 (3)
Bangladesh in New Zealand Test Series 2001/02 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
England in New Zealand Test Series 2001/02 drawn 1-1 (3)
New Zealand in Pakistan Test Series 2002 Pakistan 1-0 (1)
New Zealand in West Indies Test Series 2002 New Zealand 1-0 (2)
India in New Zealand Test Series 2002/03 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
New Zealand in Sri Lanka Test Series 2003 drawn 0-0 (2)
New Zealand in India Test Series 2003/04 drawn 0-0 (2)
Pakistan in New Zealand Test Series 2003/04 Pakistan 1-0 (2)
South Africa in New Zealand Test Series 2003/04 drawn 1-1 (3)
New Zealand in England Test Series 2004 England 3-0 (3)
New Zealand in Bangladesh Test Series 2004/05 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (New Zealand in Australia) 2004/05 Australia 2-0 (2)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (Australia in New Zealand) 2004/05 Australia 2-0 (3)
Sri Lanka in New Zealand Test Series 2004/05 New Zealand 1-0 (2)
New Zealand in Zimbabwe Test Series 2005/06 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
West Indies in New Zealand Test Series 2005/06 New Zealand 2-0 (3)
New Zealand in South Africa Test Series 2005/06 South Africa 2-0 (3)
Sri Lanka in New Zealand Test Series 2006/07 drawn 1-1 (2)
New Zealand in South Africa Test Series 2007/08 South Africa 2-0 (2)
Bangladesh in New Zealand Test Series 2007/08 New Zealand 2-0 (2)
England in New Zealand Test Series 2007/08 England 2-1 (3)


Won: 13
Lost: 12
Drawn: 7

 

[Leslie1]

Cheers aussie.

I'm not a Kiwi either btw... well a migrant as well shall we say. Although been here since 93... as part of the Asian migration during the early 90s.

 

[99*]

Wow this thread changed quick.

I'm actually surprised at those test series results, having a quick look only four of those won are not against Zim, WI or Ban. Maybe we are minnow bashers?

 

[Richard]

The emergence of Southee is why I raised the question. Southee only played in the 3rd test because Mills is unfit. When Mills is fit Southee is out the door.

The real question is, Vettori or Southee?

We can have a potent swing attack with Vettori not figuring in the side...

Martin, Mills, Southee, Franklin (when fit) - batting-wise Franklin has a test century and is a more accomplished batsman than Vettori.
OR
Martin Mills Southee Gillespie/Mason - Gillespie provides the low trajectory quick... Mason is just one of those consistent bowlers like Martin.
OR
Martin Mills Southee Vettori - it means they stop obssessing over Patel or having 2 spinners in the side, which is ridiculous when we got found out in the 3rd test with Elliot our first change seamer.

Never really rated Chris Martin much TBH, and if Mark Gillespie could get his act together I'd much prefer him in the side to Martin.

Gillespie vs Vettori would be vaguely interesting, but Martin vs Vettori is a no-brainer for my money.

Also, I don't want to see anyone getting carried-away with Southee yet. Terrific debut and might well be ready for Test cricket earlier than most - but he's still only 19, that's 3 years younger than me FFS. Hardly anyone will be able to play Test cricket untroubled at that age, unless you're Sachin Tendulkar. I hope it'll be a couple of years or so before he's playing regularly.

 

[Flem274*]

Wow this thread changed quick.

I'm actually surprised at those test series results, having a quick look only four of those won are not against Zim, WI or Ban. Maybe we are minnow bashers?

Yeah, spose everyone is though really

IMO we're just above the WI and just below England. I'd say we're on about par with SL.

Hmm we've focussed alot on our woes but who else around the world is about to have a few mass player exits?

SL Come to mind, same with India.

 

[Leslie1]

Might need to transition that whole "thread migration" better. We're supposed to start posting in the other thread....

Instead I became the target of a few Flems and Sinclairs (1) while spouting out nonsense myself when flustered by all the barrage of attacks. 10 years of not winning tests is a dumb comment to make.

Interesting, minnow bashers.

 

[Flem274*]

Never really rated Chris Martin much TBH, and if Mark Gillespie could get his act together I'd much prefer him in the side to Martin.

Gillespie vs Vettori would be vaguely interesting, but Martin vs Vettori is a no-brainer for my money.

Also, I don't want to see anyone getting carried-away with Southee yet. Terrific debut and might well be ready for Test cricket earlier than most - but he's still only 19, that's 3 years younger than me FFS. Hardly anyone will be able to play Test cricket untroubled at that age, unless you're Sachin Tendulkar. I hope it'll be a couple of years or so before he's playing regularly.

First class record right?