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Yeah I was thinking the same about HHH actually, he has indeed jobbed clean for the last three times hes appeared at mania, not really surprising that he is booked to win this one, hope he does and turns heel really, not really setting the world alight as a face at the moment. I'll predict the rest of the results as follows.

Finlay vs JBL - JBL to pick up dirty win here, JBL is due a push and is vince's friend so him jobbing doesnt really look like a possibility.

MITB - Jeff Hardy to come out on top here, fairly obvious I would have thought.

Matt Hardy vs MVP - Matt Hardy to win his first major title, MVP has held the strap for ages so we are due a change.

Big Show vs Mayweather - Mayweather, obviously.

Diva Match - not that I give a crap, but Maria and Candice will win so that they can put over maria and big up her playboy shoot I imagine.

other than the mainevent I dont think there are any other matches scheduled yet...

EDIT: forgot Batista vs Umaga, this will probably be a back and forth affair with a couple of high impact moves, could go either way really, but I imagine Batista will go over Umaga, probably ending the match with a spear.

 

[Xuhaib]

I expect Jeff to play a major role after the Mania. I think they will have a Jericho-Jeff feud after Mania with CJ playing a heel this will be used to elevate Jeff to the next level and get him ready for the title run in the summer.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Hmm, I'm trying to stay clear of spoilers these days, but considering I was pretty confident of who was going to win at WM anyway, and I won't be watching it live, I read that spoiler alert just above and was not remotely surprised. Was expecting those two results. To me WrestleMania is going to be fairly predictable all round (I didn't think they'd have the balls to let Edge win), but that doesn't necessarily mean there won't be any good matches. On the contrary, I'd expect the two title matches to be top class, and MITB should be great as well.

 

[Xuhaib]

Story By: Richard Gray

- Bryan Alvarez is reporting that Stephanie McMahon "chewed out" Bruce Pritchard for his work directing the Floyd Mayweather segments on Raw Monday night. The segments were a major disappointment.

http://www.prowrestling .com/article/news/8654

Cant blame her the segment was awfull.

 

[sledger]

Story By: Richard Gray

- Bryan Alvarez is reporting that Stephanie McMahon "chewed out" Bruce Pritchard for his work directing the Floyd Mayweather segments on Raw Monday night. The segments were a major disappointment.

http://www.prowrestling .com/article/news/8654

Cant blame her the segment was awfull.

yeah I read this as well, understandable really, from what I gather the entire thing looked very shoddy and poorly put together, though why she is surprised I dont know, as the WWE creative team constantly make these sorts of errors, and Mayweather is hardly akin to cutting an important promo on a regular basis.

 

[Xuhaib]

Have any of you guys played Adam Ryland "TEW Series". Its a wrestling management game aka Football Manager very in-depth and addicting.

The next game in the series TEW 08 is to be released in June and by looking at its current features list it seems this game will be one of the best sports management games of all time.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

You talking Extreme Warfare? If so, then yes.

 

[Xuhaib]

You talking Extreme Warfare? If so, then yes.

Extreme Warfare was a free game by Adam Ryland. TEW is not free but the game is too good.

 

[Barney Rubble]

***RUMOUR ALERT***

Oh man, I knew there was a reason I was staying clear of spoiler sites. I got too curious. I just found out the rumoured names for the remaining three spots in Money In The Bank are Elijah Burke (great news), Kane (makes sense, no problem with that) and none other than The Great Khali.

ARGH! They get every good Ladder Match competitor they've got together in one place (bar Matt Hardy) - Jeff, Y2J, Shelton, Carlito, Kennedy - and then they go and ruin it by putting Khali in there! What the hell good is that going to do for the match? It's just going to slow everything down to a snail's pace every few minutes. It's also possible to predict one of the spots already - any money says there's a spot where Khali's up the ladder grabbing for the case, Kane comes in underneath him and tries to powerbomb him but fails, and it takes every other competitor in the match to get him to the ground.

Should have put a real athlete like Kofi Kingston (who, incidentally, can do some pretty unbelievable things, in the same mould that Shelton can) in there.

 

[sledger]

***RUMOUR ALERT***

Oh man, I knew there was a reason I was staying clear of spoiler sites. I got too curious. I just found out the rumoured names for the remaining three spots in Money In The Bank are Elijah Burke (great news), Kane (makes sense, no problem with that) and none other than The Great Khali.

ARGH! They get every good Ladder Match competitor they've got together in one place (bar Matt Hardy) - Jeff, Y2J, Shelton, Carlito, Kennedy - and then they go and ruin it by putting Khali in there! What the hell good is that going to do for the match? It's just going to slow everything down to a snail's pace every few minutes. It's also possible to predict one of the spots already - any money says there's a spot where Khali's up the ladder grabbing for the case, Kane comes in underneath him and tries to powerbomb him but fails, and it takes every other competitor in the match to get him to the ground.

Should have put a real athlete like Kofi Kingston (who, incidentally, can do some pretty unbelievable things, in the same mould that Shelton can) in there.

oh dear god....I was only joking with sriram last night about how awful it would be if khali were allowed into the match, and now it seems like it is a reality, ffs, waste of time, obviously they cant be bothered to make a real match for him, so he's been slapped in here, and will no doubt do nothing good, gah, hopefully his involvement will be as minimal as possible.

 

[sledger]

also, saw the mayweather satellite link think on RAW last night, absolutely dire, looked completely unprofessional and stupid, no wonder stephanie mcmahon was livid, doesnt reflect well on mayweather either though, as even when he did an interview with king and JR later in the show he ****ed that up a treat as well, talking over the top of them and just shouting a load of nonsense, funny that they appeared to cut him off as well at the end, you just hear JR say "well floyd..err......thanks" and then the segment ends with mayweather looking confused and it cuts to mike adamle in the crowd, what a balls up.

 

[Xuhaib]

also, saw the mayweather satellite link think on RAW last night, absolutely dire, looked completely unprofessional and stupid, no wonder stephanie mcmahon was livid, doesnt reflect well on mayweather either though, as even when he did an interview with king and JR later in the show he ****ed that up a treat as well, talking over the top of them and just shouting a load of nonsense, funny that they appeared to cut him off as well at the end, you just hear JR say "well floyd..err......thanks" and then the segment ends with mayweather looking confused and it cuts to mike adamle in the crowd, what a balls up.

What did the 'E' expect Floyod is not a trained wrestler and you sure hell cant expect him to pull off SE stuff smoothly.

 

[sledger]

as you say its hardly surprising that this happened really, what suprises me is the fact that the WWE were so stupid as to air something that was clearly very badly rehearsed on a live show, would have made more sense for big show to come out and say his piece, then show a pre-recorded video of mayweathers response rather than try link it up via a sattelite, very poor.

 

[Xuhaib]

as you say its hardly surprising that this happened really, what suprises me is the fact that the WWE were so stupid as to air something that was clearly very badly rehearsed on a live show, would have made more sense for big show to come out and say his piece, then show a pre-recorded video of mayweathers response rather than try link it up via a sattelite, very poor.

This is E for you all they have done in the last 6 years is F-ups after F-ups with sporadic brilliance in between. Mcmahon is an overrated promoter who has been very lucky. He should thank his stars that the only time he faced major competition was from an idiot like Bitchoff who known to have an IQ in single digits. I believe If someone like Paul Haymen had the financial support which Bitchoff had he would have eaten Vince for breakfast.

The only strong period WWE had was the attitide era which started with Bret-Austin at WM X-3 and ended with RockAustin at WM X-7.

 

[Barney Rubble]

This is E for you all they have done in the last 6 years is F-ups after F-ups with sporadic brilliance in between. Mcmahon is an overrated promoter who has been very lucky. He should thank his stars that the only time he faced major competition was from an idiot like Bitchoff who known to have an IQ in single digits. I believe If someone like Paul Haymen had the financial support which Bitchoff had he would have eaten Vince for breakfast.

The only strong period WWE had was the attitide era which started with Bret-Austin at WM X-3 and ended with RockAustin at WM X-7.

LOLed at that, TBH. As much as some of what you say is true, that part strikes me as vaguely ridiculous. Without everything Vince McMahon did for the wrestling business in the '80s, WCW and ECW may not have ever even existed in the first place. Heyman was a great booker but never earned Vince's respect, and Bischoff did okay for a while with some big names but couldn't book matches to save his life.

Without Vince McMahon (and arguably without Hulk Hogan) there would never have been an Attitude Era, and in all likelihood, none of us would have ever even watched wrestling in the first place.

 

[sledger]

yeah like vince or not, its hard to deny that without him the business wouldnt be where it is today.
I think to say WWE has been F up afer F up is also slightly harsh, as though the quality hasnt always been tip top over the last 5 years or so I cant think of many examples where there has been a genuinely serious error.

And on Paul Heyman, the guy clearly knows what he's doing, very switched on, just a bit of a dick.

 

[Barney Rubble]

yeah like vince or not, its hard to deny that without him the business wouldnt be where it is today.
I think to say WWE has been F up afer F up is also slightly harsh, as though the quality hasnt always been tip top over the last 5 years or so I cant think of many examples where there has been a genuinely serious error.

And on Paul Heyman, the guy clearly knows what he's doing, very switched on, just a bit of a dick.

Agree entirely with this post.

As for the last five years, it's not been all bad - Evolution was awesome, the era of the SmackDown! Six (Edge, Benoit, Angle, RVD, Eddie, Rey) produced some epic matches, the development of Cena and the emergence of Edge as a true main-event level performer, the arrival on the scene of Mr. Kennedy, MVP, CM Punk and Carlito as ones for the future, and the continuing brilliance of the likes of Undertaker and Triple H, coupled with the return of HBK.

It's not been all bad by a long shot - you just have to look a bit harder for the good these days. Things'll improve.

 

[Xuhaib]

yeah like vince or not, its hard to deny that without him the business wouldnt be where it is today.
I think to say WWE has been F up afer F up is also slightly harsh, as though the quality hasnt always been tip top over the last 5 years or so I cant think of many examples where there has been a genuinely serious error.

And on Paul Heyman, the guy clearly knows what he's doing, very switched on, just a bit of a dick.

Brock' super sonic push ?

I liked Brock and I thought he had a great future but making a guy win a WM main event in his first WM was pretty poor.

Brock was a great wrestler who had a real superstar look about him but I think he was pushed soo fast that fans started feeling he was being shoved down their throats. I feel if Brock's build up had been much slower then fans would have cared more for him.

I think with Austin retiring and Rock going part-time Vince got desperate for a new superstar who would carry the company post attitude and when he saw Brock he got over excited and just crazy pushed him, the end result being the fans did not respond as much as the E expected and Broc loosing his hunger for the biz and retiring just after his 2nd Wrestlemania.

 

[Xuhaib]

Agree entirely with this post.

As for the last five years, it's not been all bad - Evolution was awesome, the era of the SmackDown! Six (Edge, Benoit, Angle, RVD, Eddie, Rey) produced some epic matches, the development of Cena and the emergence of Edge as a true main-event level performer, the arrival on the scene of Mr. Kennedy, MVP, CM Punk and Carlito as ones for the future, and the continuing brilliance of the likes of Undertaker and Triple H, coupled with the return of HBK.

It's not been all bad by a long shot - you just have to look a bit harder for the good these days. Things'll improve.

I dont think the in ring work is really poor infact it could be at par with the attitude, infact this is the reason I feel WWE will not meet WCW fate since they do not allow their in ring work to go extreamly poo which means they would always keep the hardcore loyal wrestling fans somewhat interested unlike a sinking WCW, but its not the workrate which brings in the casual fans for that you need the Entertainment stuff strong and this is where I feel WWE has lacked in recent times. I mean its no coincidence that ratings and popularity started to dip when Rock-Austin left.

With Cena it seemed they were about to hit a gold mine but then retardly they took away his rapper gimmick and made him a superman marine thus eating away a lot of his heat eventhough his workrate got much better during his marine days. Agreed on Edge the development of his charecter is a perfect example how a wrestler should be developed.

 

[cover drive man]

If I may add my two cents.

The first main event I watched was wrestlemania xii where I was totally absorbed in the wrestling (I was 7 at the time) And I was a huge fan of the rock. I loved what they were doing and I'd say in my experience it peaked with the time when ecw and wcw teamed up to beat the wwe (at the timw wwf) But after that things went a bit downhill. We had a few years years of absolute crape (Of course I was starting to grow up and I found out it was fake but I could still tell the good stuff from the bad) in which the rock and stone cold would pop in one week then go missing another we had John Cena come in who is just a ****ing idiot. Infact the only constants were evolution (Mostly from hhh and flair) The undertaker and Mr Mchmahon. Things seem to be getting a bit better but it'll take a bit until they get back to the standard set by when ecw and wcw "invaded" I just pray hhh and taker win at wrestlemania.