***Official*** Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series 2007-08

[howardj]

Whilst losing wickets against other teams is fine? Its stating the obvious saying that losing wickets early against Australia is damaging, but India lost early wickets against Australia in Sydney last week and still scored 299.

No. Losing early wickets against other teams is not fine. My point was that, because teams lose early wickets so often against Australia, it's illuminating to see what happens when teams get off to a safe, solid start. What happens is the same that happens against other teams - a platform is built and, with wickets in hand, a good score is much more likely.

Yes, I know India lost early wickets against Australia last week but got a good score. There are of course always exceptions such as this. It doesn't disprove the rule though.

 

[Mister Wright]

Meant in Brisbane I think.

Haha. Yeah, that's what I meant. 'Twas late.

 

[adharcric]

Haha, gotta love Occam's Razor being used to prove/disprove the intent behind Lee's beamers.

 

[Mister Wright]

Haha. Can't believe it's not raining today.

 

[Burgey]

Word is Clark will play today instead of Hogg. It's a positive move if the pitch suits and conditions are okay, but imo it leaves us vulnerable with a very long tail of Lee at 8, then Johnson, Bracken and Clark.
Time for the batsmen to fire, one feels.

 

[Pratters]

Australia to win this game I think. If the pitch assists the bowlers more than normal, I can see India coming short in this game. Lee, Johnson, Clark.... plus India do not have the best pace bowling attack for this game, spinners might not be that effective like in Sydney. Let's see what happens.

 

[Sanz]

I've seen Sanjay Manjrekar bat out painfully long g50's at over a century of deliveries, showing his technical prowess without being useful to the team. I've also heard him carry that forward with comments like this oneThis was against that weak South African team that came in 2004, in India, on a flat deck. Sehwag and Gambir smashed a double-century opening partnership. We've heard him getting apprehensive more than a few times, only for Tesm India to prove him wrong. What put me off the most was his blatant criticism of the Indian team and establishment during the Sydney Test fiasco.

Please dont post Bull****. Manjrekar may be wrong to make a point about Tendulkar's second innings but brining in his record as a batsman sounds to me that you have an axe to grind. Besides Manjrekar was not the only one making that point, Cricinfo had just posted a similar article a few days ago.

As for your Bull**** of "With the South Africans scoring over 600, the Indians will have a tough task to save this Test" care to point the 2004 Test match where SA scored over 600 runs ?

I dont have a problem with People pointing Tendulkar's century which may make Manjrekar(and others like him) look like a fool but to criticize Manjrekar's style of batting because of that is pure rubbish.

 

[howardj]

Love Sanjay Manjrekar.

There was as much hype around him as Sachin when India arrived in Brisbane in 1991/1992.

 

[Sanz]

What put me off the most was his blatant criticism of the Indian team and establishment during the Sydney Test fiasco.

And why shouldn't he ? Both sides were responsible for what happened in Sydney and I think it showed that he had the guts to question Indian team's behaviour when the whole nation was being swept by jingoistic waves.

Although I dislike his commentry style, Manjrekar comes across as a fairly honest individual and at times I dont agree with him but I think he has a right to make his opinion without getting attacked by Tendulkar fanatics.

 

[howardj]

AWTA

Both sides were culpable in Sydney - let's hope the Summer ends in a dignified manner this week.

 

[Top_Cat]

Love Sanjay Manjrekar.

There was as much hype around him as Sachin when India arrived in Brisbane in 1991/1992.

Perhaps more. He had a shocking run of outs, though.

 

[adharcric]

Time for the batsmen to fire, one feels.

Nah, I think they should wait a little longer.

 

[silentstriker]

We don't have RP Singh, Zaheer Khan and now no Ishant Sharma - the pace bowling looks weak.

 

[Burgey]

Well full credit to the bane of so many here on CW, Ian Healy, who just defended HBS re. the 1st final and also made a point of saying "Australian crowds are by no means well behaved".

 

[pup11]

I'm not sure if you were referring specifically to television commentary or his articles as well, but thankfully I don't have to listen to Sanjay Manjrekar whilst watching the cricket here (Yes, I'd even take the worst channel 9 commentary members over Manjrekar... including Healy!), but his comments about how people are "scared" to talk about Sachin's recent failings when chasing in ODIs was pathetic. Firstly, its mentioned all the time and the commentators (Chappell, Slater, Nicholas) on Channel 9 brought it up during the chase saying Tendulkar will be looking to overcome it, and secondly its unsurprising for him to say something like that because he enjoys sticking the knife in Indian cricket whenever he can.

Whatever his reason, be it bitterness, desire to look unbiased, or want of attention, it often results in him looking like a dickhead.

I think in his case its just a bit of jealousy and envy boiling over, him, Tendulkar and Kambli were are young talented players coming up through the ranks playing for the same domestic team Bombay, but Tendulkar achieved so much success but Manjrekar only had an average career, so somewhere down the line i think Manjrekar is just jealous of Tendulkar's achievements and hence he is coming out with this whole load of crap, mind you this is not the first time he is attacking Tendulkar like this, he has done it in the past too.

 

[Sanz]

I'm not sure if you were referring specifically to television commentary or his articles as well, but thankfully I don't have to listen to Sanjay Manjrekar whilst watching the cricket here (Yes, I'd even take the worst channel 9 commentary members over Manjrekar... including Healy!), but his comments about how people are "scared" to talk about Sachin's recent failings when chasing in ODIs was pathetic. Firstly, its mentioned all the time and the commentators (Chappell, Slater, Nicholas) on Channel 9 brought it up during the chase saying Tendulkar will be looking to overcome it, and secondly its unsurprising for him to say something like that because he enjoys sticking the knife in Indian cricket whenever he can.

Healy, Slater etc are not Indians and they dont have to fear a backlash of Tendulkar fanatics. To me it seems that his comments were mainly about Indian media where you face huge backlash if you dare question Tendulkar's non-performance and he is not too far off.

Whatever his reason, be it bitterness, desire to look unbiased, or want of attention, it often results in him looking like a dickhead.

Reactions like Your simply prove him right. So he questions Tendulkar's performance while chasing and you start calling names.

 

[Sanz]

I think in his case its just a bit of jealousy and envy boiling over, him, Tendulkar and Kambli were are young talented players coming up through the ranks playing for the same domestic team Bombay, but Tendulkar achieved so much success but Manjrekar only had an average career, so somewhere down the line i think Manjrekar is just jealous of Tendulkar's achievements and hence he is coming out with this whole load of crap, mind you this is not the first time he is attacking Tendulkar like this, he has done it in the past too.

 

[honestbharani]

He not only paced the innings well, but combined that with opening the batting, something Bevan, Hussey and other finishers (as great as they are) didn't do.

His knock was immense, and Rohit's support was critical as well. You know Rohit was batting well with his two sublime staight drives early in his innings. Great talent.

yep... what I meant was that is what was so great about that knock. He played as well as any opener could have but once it came down to the crunch, he played as well as any of the great finishers could have. Truly astounding!!!

 

[Jono]

Please dont post Bull****. Manjrekar may be wrong to make a point about Tendulkar's second innings.

No he wasn't, it was fine to bring it up, just like all the Channel 9 commentary team did, and Cricinfo etc.

What was not fine was him saying this:

"With Tendulkar, it's like the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about."
Sanjay Manjrekar wonders why Sachin Tendulkar's failures, especially while chasing, are not questioned by the media

Piss of Sanjay, its brought up all the time. Stop trying to bring attention to yourself.

 

[Jono]

Why are you always so angry? Go get a massage, or watch some stand-up comedy or something man.