**Official** England in New Zealand

[Silver Arrow]

Just reported on Radio Sport that Ryder smashed a toilet window with his fist and therefore damaged his hand so is out of cricket for 6 weeks.

 

[Bahnz]

Just reported on Radio Sport that Ryder smashed a toilet window with his fist and therefore damaged his hand so is out of cricket for 6 weeks.

Correction, he won't be doing any physical activity for 6 weeks. He's not expected to get back to playing cricket for 3 months.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Ross Taylor Positives

-highly talented

-stopped slogging to midwicket every ball

-seems to be developing the virtue of patience

-isn't playing around his front pad early in the innings as often as he used to

Ross Taylor Negatives

-Domestic average of 36 is fairly average compared to other FC batsmen we have, suspect it would drop considerably if his double century is taken out.

-still quite rusty around the edges in terms of technique. He is still developing as a cricketer.

-His best FC position is number five, that spot is taken by Jesse Ryder

-If he were to move up the order we would have to leave out one of Fulton, Flemng, Sinclair who are all better at 3-4 in FC matches than Taylor. Not to mention Hay, Todd, Nicol are better at 3-4 as well.

I just don't think he is ready yet I'm afraid.

But I think he has the class to step up at the top level.
First class doesnt equal Test.
How many guys who have had awesome averages at First class level have gone on to fail at Test level?

He has got talent, he has shown he can perform at the top level, albeit ODI. I say, give him a go.

 

[Perm]

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/nzveng/content/current/story/339543.html

 

[Perm]

But I think he has the class to step up at the top level.

Have you been watching him lately? Swinging his bat in an arc towards mid-wicket does not equal class. In recent times Taylor has been severely limited with his stroke play and temperament.

First class doesnt equal Test.

No, but putting in good First Class performances is usually a reasonable indication of whether one will be a success at Test level or not.

How many guys who have had awesome averages at First class level have gone on to fail at Test level?

A few. Is that relevant though? How many batsman who have poor First Class averages have gone on to be good Test batsman? Not a great deal.

He has got talent, he has shown he can perform at the top level, albeit ODI. I say, give him a go.

His performances in ODI cricket lately have generally been poor. If you want to see him play, and most likely fail, then fair enough. I for one would rather have somebody else fill the middle order.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Ryder = idiot.

 

[Flem274*]

Just reported on Radio Sport that Ryder smashed a toilet window with his fist and therefore damaged his hand so is out of cricket for 6 weeks.

Oh FFS

Bets on Taylor playing?

 

[Silver Arrow]

BLACKCAPS batsman Jesse Ryder is expected to be out of cricket for three months after injuring his right hand.

Ryder damaged the index finger and thumb on his hand when he broke a window at the Stock Exchange bar trying to gain access to a toilet area that had been accidentally locked. The incident happened at 5.30am.

He was scheduled to be operated on in Christchurch Hospital on Sunday afternoon.

Ryder requires a reconstruction to the exterior tendon on his index finger, a flap reconstruction and a skin graft. It is expected to be six weeks before he can start light training and up to three months before he can resume playing competitively, so long as there are no complications.

Lindsay Crocker, BLACKCAPS general manager, said New Zealand Cricket and the team are disappointed in Ryder’s behaviour and viewed this incident seriously.

“We recognise the pressure Jesse has been under through his success in the England series and he has suddenly become a high profile international player. However, this behaviour is unacceptable and we will have a serious discussion with him to ensure situations like this do not occur in the future.

“Jesse had shown increasing maturity during the England series and we had been happy with his behaviour up to this point. However in light of this event we shall ensure additional support is provided to Jesse.

“We have team behavioural protocols which are monitored by the group as a whole and this system has served us well for the past four years. The incident will be worked through when we next assemble to see whether there is anything which should be improved,” he said.

“Ryder will pay for the damage and apologise to the bar owner. No further disciplinary action will be taken as Jesse’s injuries should serve as enough of a lesson on this occasion.”

 

[Nate]

How disappointing.

 

[MoxPearl]

hahahahahahahahahaha

that didnt last long lol


Granted maybe he just really needed to pee

 

[Bahnz]

Have you been watching him lately? Swinging his bat in an arc towards mid-wicket does not equal class. In recent times Taylor has been severely limited with his stroke play and temperament.



No, but putting in good First Class performances is usually a reasonable indication of whether one will be a success at Test level or not.



A few. Is that relevant though? How many batsman who have poor First Class averages have gone on to be good Test batsman? Not a great deal.



His performances in ODI cricket lately have generally been poor. If you want to see him play, and most likely fail, then fair enough. I for one would rather have somebody else fill the middle order.

I dunno, he played some lovely shots in the last couple of games, and looked likely to be our hero and take us home last night, until the rain rolled round and stole his thunder. As for him being in poor form, he's actually averaged 41.4 for the Black Caps this season. He's also been in pretty good touch for his State side. Admittedly he's only hit one 50, but that's more a testament to a lack of opportunities at no. 5, than poor form. Not saying that he should be selected, but I wouldn't be suprised if he was, especially after porn star's brain melt.

 

[Prince EWS]

But I think he has the class to step up at the top level.
First class doesnt equal Test.
How many guys who have had awesome averages at First class level have gone on to fail at Test level?

He has got talent, he has shown he can perform at the top level, albeit ODI. I say, give him a go.

As I said before, I'm so opposed to him playing that I wouldn't even let him go to the game.

What does he actually have going for him? Pretty much nothing, really. People think he has talent, but other than the fact that he plays a nice shot once every six attempts at being the hero, he really doesn't. He doesn't have a great first class record and he doesn't have a great technique either. That's not a combination for success.

 

[Jono]

LOL, Jesse Ryder you idiot.

 

[pasag]

Haha, what a knob.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Seems a really smart bloke.

 

[Smudge]

I think the best solution for all is if NZ sportsmen are banned from drinking in Christchurch bars.

 

[ohtani's jacket]

hahahahahahahahahaha

that didnt last long lol


Granted maybe he just really needed to pee

Ha, he should have took one for the team.

 

[sportychic33]

Have you been watching him lately? Swinging his bat in an arc towards mid-wicket does not equal class. In recent times Taylor has been severely limited with his stroke play and temperament.
.

But wouldn't you like to know why his technique has changed and why his shot selection has been so poor.
Let's go back to last season where he scored the ton at Napier and performed well in the Chappel-Hadlee's, he was new to the team and played his own game. Now lets look at today, he has been in and around the team for the last year, meaning he has been influenced by certain coaches such as Bracewell and his team of merry-men. I believe that if we let Taylor play his natural game we would not be seeing these arc towards mid-wicket and would be seeing better stroke play and technique.

 

[Days of Grace]

Maybe he needed to vomit or take a dump, desparate times call for desparate measures.

Probably was drinking that Canterbury Draught, not a smart move.

 

[ohtani's jacket]

What are the chances of Fleming getting that elusive 10th Test century? What a milestone that would be.