Tom Halsey
International Coach
Yeah, that duffer photo is the one I was referring to as suggesting the tackle looks very bad. I'd be somewhat surprised if MOTD show replays of the tackle tbh, but you never know.
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*Official* English Football Season 2007-08
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Matteh
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Wouldn't have said it was cast iron, but would reckon a large percentage of the time he'd be off, especially given the understandable reaction of Eduardo to it. What makes it not cast iron is pretty much just the fact it isn't a two footed jump tackle, as it is, he's got it horrendously wrong.
Scaly piscine
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Yea It's a clear red because his other leg is off the ground (or near enough), so all the weight, momentum etc. is going through his tackling foot plus the studs are showing as well. It's unlucky for Eduardo that he's got his leg planted which means you had the resulting injury.
It's not a 'horrific tackle' tho (but still bad and a red card) and a certain overhyped Liverpool player called Gerrard does tackles like that every month. I would sooner this technical ineptitude was penalised with a red card and then some governing body steps in with a further punishment if the player involved has a history of 'tackling' like that.
It's not a 'horrific tackle' tho (but still bad and a red card) and a certain overhyped Liverpool player called Gerrard does tackles like that every month. I would sooner this technical ineptitude was penalised with a red card and then some governing body steps in with a further punishment if the player involved has a history of 'tackling' like that.
bugssy
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some one mentioned earlier, cisse had nearly exact same injury just a little higher he was out for sometime but he come back well....it didnt look bad watching the game but when you see the stills he did go in studs up which is a no no so that doesnt help his cause.
Neil Pickup
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It is a red card, undoubtedly, but it is no worse than many of the homicidal lunges that Arsenal produced last week at Old Trafford. A life ban is a moronic suggestion - Taylor is not a dirty player (he's been booked twice in the last two seasons...) and it is fortune and misfortune dictating that Eduardo has his career in the balance and not Nani.
Shaggy Alfresco
State Captain
Horrible tackle, deserved red and 3 match ban, but Wenger confirms his arch-**** status by calling for a life ban.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Wenger has just withdrawn the statement tbf to him.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
Was just on SSN on the "Breaking News" bit, I assume it'll be on Sky's website by now, will have a look.
EDIT: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3188169,00.html
("Arsene Wenger claimed after the match that Taylor should not be allowed to play again, but he is now understood to have withdrawn those comments.") Doesn't seem to be an article on the comments themselves yet.
EDIT: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3188169,00.html
("Arsene Wenger claimed after the match that Taylor should not be allowed to play again, but he is now understood to have withdrawn those comments.") Doesn't seem to be an article on the comments themselves yet.
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Tom Halsey
International Coach
Just seen a good replay of the Eduardo challenge - don't think it's malicious at all. The injury itself looks even worse on video though.
Spitfires_Fan
State Vice-Captain
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=488014&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+My+comments+on+Taylor+were+%27excessive%27
Link to the Arsenal site where Wenger retracts his statement.
I'm not happy about the way Arsenal have conducted themselves in the last week, with Eboue's red card, the ridiculous, potentially career-threatening tackles on Nani (although he was being an arrogant little show-off, whereas Eduardo's injury came about because he was just too quick for Taylor, not through any fault of his own) and particularly Gallas' juvenile behaviour as captain. Yes - it's good that he cares, but he sets an appalling example to the rest of the team. Gilberto or Hleb are about the only players I'd trust to wear the captain's armband at the moment.
Anyway, I thought Wenger was excessive in his post-match comments, and I don't like his selective sight and blind defence of his players when they're obviously in the wrong, but fair play to him for retracting what he said. I can't imagine what it must be like to see a player that you've signed and spent time working with suffer an injury like that, and so I can understand why he totally overreacted through high emotion after the game. I'm pleased he retracted his statement after reflection though, I'd have lost a lot of respect for him if he hadn't.
I feel for Martin Taylor as well really - I'm sure it wasn't a malicious tackle (although to say that some wouldn't even give a yellow card is ridiculous from Steve Bruce) and he must be feeling dreadful to have seen what his tackle did.
It seems petty to talk about the match itself after the injury, but I'm sure that the final result and the nature of it will just have exacerbated the emotion of AW and the Arsenal players. There were some poor decisions at the end there by Mike Dean. I think this might be the end of Arsenal's season now, I can't see them bouncing back from this, especially now that the deficit is down to 3 points and Man U are in such good form.
Anyway, I just hope Eduardo can make a full recovery - he's a class player who was just beginning to show signs that he might start setting the Premiership alight. I'm absolutely gutted for him.
Link to the Arsenal site where Wenger retracts his statement.
I'm not happy about the way Arsenal have conducted themselves in the last week, with Eboue's red card, the ridiculous, potentially career-threatening tackles on Nani (although he was being an arrogant little show-off, whereas Eduardo's injury came about because he was just too quick for Taylor, not through any fault of his own) and particularly Gallas' juvenile behaviour as captain. Yes - it's good that he cares, but he sets an appalling example to the rest of the team. Gilberto or Hleb are about the only players I'd trust to wear the captain's armband at the moment.
Anyway, I thought Wenger was excessive in his post-match comments, and I don't like his selective sight and blind defence of his players when they're obviously in the wrong, but fair play to him for retracting what he said. I can't imagine what it must be like to see a player that you've signed and spent time working with suffer an injury like that, and so I can understand why he totally overreacted through high emotion after the game. I'm pleased he retracted his statement after reflection though, I'd have lost a lot of respect for him if he hadn't.
I feel for Martin Taylor as well really - I'm sure it wasn't a malicious tackle (although to say that some wouldn't even give a yellow card is ridiculous from Steve Bruce) and he must be feeling dreadful to have seen what his tackle did.
It seems petty to talk about the match itself after the injury, but I'm sure that the final result and the nature of it will just have exacerbated the emotion of AW and the Arsenal players. There were some poor decisions at the end there by Mike Dean. I think this might be the end of Arsenal's season now, I can't see them bouncing back from this, especially now that the deficit is down to 3 points and Man U are in such good form.
Anyway, I just hope Eduardo can make a full recovery - he's a class player who was just beginning to show signs that he might start setting the Premiership alight. I'm absolutely gutted for him.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
I have read this a lot over the past week, and I just don't get it. What was he doing wrong? We earned the right to play around a bit, and anyway with the position the ball of him, what he did was the best thing, as his only other option was to leather the ball sideways into the stands.
If the argument is that it's taking the piss out of the oppo, then so is making them look stupid by passing the ball around them.
headhunter
International Vice-Captain
Bad, bad tackle. Definite red, deserves around a 5-7 match ban. I think it's fair to say there was no intent and Taylor himself must feel pretty bad.
Dark Hunter
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Reminds me of the tackle on Scott Brown during our CL group match against Benfica. Can't remember the Benfica player's name, but he ended up with a 6 match ban, although Brown got through it seemingly without injury.
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