Indian Premier League

[Cevno]

My impressions on the likely lineups, pre-transfers and assuming all international players are available...

Jaipur
Catchment Areas: Rajasthan, Gujarat, Baroda and Saurashtra

First Choice XI:

Graeme Smith (6) (vc)
Chetheshwar Pujara
Mohammad Kaif
Yusuf Pathan (5)
Younis Khan
Niraj Patel/connor williams
Kamran Akmal +
Shane Warne (4) (c)
Munaf Patel (1)
SP Jobanputra (3)
Pankaj singh
____________________

Reserves:

Justin Langer



Chennai
Catchment Areas: Tamil Nadu, Kerala and Railways

First Choice XI:

Matthew Hayden
Suresh Raina
Michael Hussey
MS Dhoni + (c)
Subramaniam badrinath
Jacob Oram (2)
Parthiv Patel
Joginder Sharma (5)
Albie Mørkel (1)
SB Bangar/ S Anish (4)
Muttiah Muralitharan (3)
___________________

Reserves:

Stephen Fleming
Makhaya Ntini


Hyderabad
Catchment Areas: Hyderabad, Andhra and Orissa

First Choice XI:

Adam Gilchrist (vc) +
Herschelle Gibbs
Rohit Sharma
Andrew Symonds (5)
VVS Laxman (c)
Shahid Afridi (4)
DB Ravi Teja
*batsman/all rounder*
Scott Styris/Chaminda Vaas (2)
RP Singh (1)
Debashish Mohanty* (3)
___________________

Reserves:

Chaminda Vaas/Scott Styris
Nuwan Zoysa
Chamara Silva



Mumbai
Catchment Areas: Mumbai, Maharashtra and Vidarbha

First Choice XI:

Sachin Tendulkar (c) (6)
Sanath Jayasuriya (5)
Robin Uthappa
Amol muzumdar

Akinjaya Rahane
*keeper* +
Shaun Pollock (1) (vc)
Harbhajan Singh(4)
Dilhara Fernando (3)
Lasith Malinga (2)
____________________

Reserves:

Loots Bosman



Mohali
Catchment Areas: Haryana, Punjab, Himachal and J&K

First Choice XI:

*batsman*
Ramnaresh Sarwan
Kumar Sangakkara +
Yuvraj Singh (c)
Mahela Jayawardene (vc)
*batsman*
Irfan Pathan (3)
Ramesh Powar (4)
Brett Lee (1)
Piyush Chawla (5)
Sreesanth (2)
____________________

Reserves:

Simon Katich



Kolkata
Catchment Areas: Bengal, Jharkhand, Assam, Tripura and Sikkim

First Choice XI:

Sourav Ganguly (c) (6)
Chris Gayle (5)
Ricky Ponting (vc)
NS Shetty
*batsman*
*batsman*
Brendon McCullum +
Ajit Agarkar (3)
Ishant Sharma (2)
Murali Kartik (4)
Shoaib Akhtar (1)
____________________

Reserves:

Umar Gul
David Hussey
Tatenda Taibu +



Delhi
Catchment Areas: Delhi, Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh

First Choice XI:

Virender Sehwag (c) (6)
Gautam Gambhir
Shoaib Malik (5)
Manoj Tiwary
Shikhar dhawan/mithun manhas/aakash chopra
Dinesh Karthik +
rajat bhatia/Virat kohli
Daniel Vettori (3)
Pradeep sangwan/praveen kumar (4)
Glenn McGrath (2)
Mohammad Asif (1)
__________________

Reserves:

Farveez Maharoof
AB de Villiers
Tillakaratne Dilshan



Bangalore
Catchment Areas: Karnataka, Goa and Services

Wasim Jaffer
*batsman*
Jacques Kallis (5)
Rahul Dravid (c)
Venugopal rao/Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Swapnil asnodkar
Mark Boucher +
Nathan Bracken (1)
Anil Kumble (vc) (3)
Zaheer Khan (2)
Dale Steyn/ R Vinay Kumar (4)
___________________

Reserves:

Dale Steyn/Shivnaraine Chanderpaul
Cameron White

There you go.

 

[Googenheim]

Jaipur franchise to be penalised

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/current/story/338103.html

Lol, they interviewed one of the Jaipur consultants on the telly after the auction. He gave the impression of being a smart operator, kept spouting stuff about how they had fixed limits in mind for each player and thus didn't bid for plenty of players whose prices overstepped those limits in the bidding process. All well and fine in theory, until one notices the fact that they snared just two standout overseas players and failed to spend even the minimum 3.3 million stipulated by the IPL governing council.

 

[Googenheim]

There you go.

Thanks Venugopal Rao plays for Andhra actually, and would be eligible for Hyderabad. Other than that, Delhi look to be spoilt for choices, it would seem.

 

[Cevno]

Thanks Venugopal Rao plays for Andhra actually, and would be eligible for Hyderabad. Other than that, Delhi look to be spoilt for choices, it would seem.

Yes,venugopal plays for andhra.my fault.
Currently delhi,UP have the most talented domestic teams so delhi have a good choice there but they already have two players from that area in gambhir and sehwag.

 

[slugger]

does any one know if the ipl is going to expand.. I herd something about franchisers from outside India to be introduced... 2 from Eng. 2 Aust. something like that or is that the ICL

 

[silentstriker]

You're probably talking about the Champions League?

 

[Pratters]

Really, why did Bosman go for so less. He is one of the best hitters and an awesome T20 player. I can understand Indian players going for more money than foreigners but do feel that the franchisees haven't done their homework about foreign players. If they had done it, they would have scooped some not so famous foreigners who they could have got for much less money. There are essentially two types of foreigners you are seeing purchased - the big names and the not so big name utility players (like say McCullum). I feel that they haven't done their home work on the not so big name foreign players. Not to sound pompous, but I could have done a much better job at it than what some of the franchisees have done.

Any ways, very excited about this. I was hoping that my team, Kolkata, get Ishant and was so happy that we did. With Ganguly, Gayle, Akhtar, Gul, Ishant, we have an explosive opening pair and a solid bowling line up. Will be great to see Ponting in action whenever he plays too. Kolkata Red Chillies would be the perfect name for us with guys like Ganguly and Akhtar in the squad. Can't wait for the tournament to start.

 

[jeevan]

Haha, what??

1. Younis Khan $225K, Mohammed Kaif $675K. Same franchise.

2. Hayden 375K, M Hussey 350K, Raina $650K same franchise

3. Ponting 400K, D Hussey 675K same franchise

4. Sreesanth 650K, Munaf 275K

5. Asif 650K, Bracken 325K

6. Ishant 950K, Zaheer 450K

7. Symonds 1350K, Styris 175K same franchise

8. Uthappa 800K Bosman 175K

Many others, too numerous to mention. Has to be some sort of advertising , availability, math rather than just cricketing skills at work in this valuation (assuming that there is sense to begin with).

 

[Pratters]

1. Younis Khan $225K, Mohammed Kaif $675K. Same franchise.

2. Hayden 375K, M Hussey 350K, Raina $650K same franchise

3. Ponting 400K, D Hussey 675K same franchise

4. Sreesanth 650K, Munaf 275K

5. Asif 650K, Bracken 325K

6. Ishant 950K, Zaheer 450K

7. Symonds 1350K, Styris 175K same franchise

8. Uthappa 800K Bosman 175K

Many others, too numerous to mention. Has to be some sort of advertising , availability, math rather than just cricketing skills at work in this valuation (assuming that there is sense to begin with).

Indian cricketers are much more marketable in India and thus more pricey. Also, as teams can play just 4 foreigners in their XI, star Indian players are more in demand from that perspective as well.

Ponting's price fizzled because he would miss games as he would be touring Pakistan and the restriction on number of Aussie players teams can have imposed by CA.

The auction went round wise which meant a lot depended on the budgets the teams had at that point as well. For instance, Jayawardene went for a lot of money which wouldn't have been the case had he not been in the first group of players auctioned imo.

David Hussey was a surprise but he has scored a 60 ball hundred, is an Aussie player, Aussie players tend to do very well in domestic cricket (just look at English county cricket). Two or more teams may have gone into a bidding war over Hussey elevating his price.

Zaheer Khan v Ishant - Ishant is a hot commodity right now while the novelty factor about Zaheer isn't there. This is not to comment on either's cricketing ability as Zaheer is one fine bowler.

Some of it doesn't make sense (I don't get why Dinesh Karthik went for so much but it might again be a result of a bidding war between two franchises) but a lot of it does where I am concerned. It is simplistic to say, as some have said in this thread and all over India that it is just marketability which means a player demands a lot of money. Various teams look at getting different things from different players, and so while you may not have over a million mark if you aren't marketable to the Indian public, you can fetch 0.50-0.75 million if a team thinks that you can serve specific need(s) the team has.

 

[howardj]

A Grubby Trade in Greed and Ego

 

[Googenheim]

Well, God forbid the players wanting to make some good honest money.

 

[howardj]

Well, God forbid the players wanting to make some good honest money.

God forbid fans who want meaningful cricket played by guys drawn together by something other than money; played by teams (not franchises) who actually have a history.

 

[Pratters]

A Grubby Trade in Greed and Ego

We get the point, you hate the IPL. I don't get the point of you constantly posting on how the IPL is dire in this thread though. If you hate it that much, create a thread on why IPL is dire or to discuss the merits/demerits of IPL. I for one, am interested in discussing the goings on about IPL, which are interesting enough, in this thread and find such posts and crap which goes on after that at a tangent with the thread. This is very much like people who kept crying about how Twenty20 is dire in every T20 thread.

The article is crap any way, aimed at gaining an emotional soft corner with people who do not like the concept of IPL. Notice the paragraph:

Here's another misgiving: moral turpitude. India has made gigantic economic strides in recent years but still suffers poverty on a massive scale.

Some of it would have been apparent in shadowy back streets not far from the hotel. Not much evidence of market-economy-solves-all there. But this was a day for blind eyes, not glaucoma.

When the **** did IPL claim to remove all the poverty which exists in India. If it can earn it's owners and players and those associated with it money and can bring joy to the public in the process, it has at least help bring some thing good in the lives of the poor with whom the author of the piece takes so much feigned concern.

The author raises another question, who the **** will watch the tournament:

Will anyone care? The promoters say we will sit up at all hours to see Jaipur's Warne bowl to Hyderabad's Gilchrist, and Tendulkar and Jayasuriya flaying together for Mumbai. Sony seems certain of it, paying an obscene amount even by these obscene standards for the television rights.

But will we? The first time, yes, for novelty value. Australians will care about their countryfolk, but most wouldn't know Jaipur from Jai Taurima. What happens when Gilly makes a duck, Warney does a hammy? In this fantasy league, no matter how deftly you press the buttons, Gilchrist won't come back, or Warne good.

Indians will definitely care. Even the ICL recieved huge crowds and given that the IPL will have more stars, it is bound to gain a lot of viewership and is financially viable thus. The people who are paying so much money including the television companies aren't fools.

Will the Australian public care is asked next. This is an Indian tournament and so the Australian public is not the main target audience. There is a large base of Australian cricket fans, a portion of which are T20 fans as well. I am sure at least some will watch and I hope Channel 10 makes profits out of the deal. Even if there isn't any Australian audience for the tournament, it isn't important. Hardly any one watches Indians in India when they play in English domestic cricket for instance.

Cheers.

 

[NZTailender]

People have no alternative but to call the Bangalore side by the corporate name.

Haha, what the ****? Of course they have an alternative - they'll just say Bangalore.
It's not like the general public have a contract to the team and have to call them by their corporate name every time they speak of them like players or officials generally do.

 

[Googenheim]

God forbid fans who want meaningful cricket played by guys drawn together by something other than money; played by teams (not franchises) who actually have a history.

God forbid 'fans' who throw their toys outta the pram when professional cricketers refuse to be straightjacketed by conventions and seek to explore new avenues of income by trying out a new concept.

 

[James]

Does anyone know when the final squads including domestic Indian players are named?

 

[Googenheim]

This is an Indian tournament and so the Australian public is not the main target audience. There is a large base of Australian cricket fans, a portion of which are T20 fans as well. I am sure at least some will watch and I hope Channel 10 makes profits out of the deal. Even if there isn't any Australian audience for the tournament, it isn't important. Hardly any one watches Indians in India when they play in English domestic cricket for instance.

Well said.

 

[howardj]

God forbid 'fans' who throw their toys outta the pram when professional cricketers refuse to be straightjacketed by conventions and seek to explore new avenues of income by trying out a new concept.

Wrong. Mate, didn't you read what the players have been saying? They're not doing it for the income, but so they can be part of an exciting new concept.

 

[howardj]

Does anyone know when the final squads including domestic Indian players are named?

They're called 'franchises', not squads.

And the cricket is called a product.

 

[Dasa]

Give it a rest, you're ruining the thread for people who may actually like the concept.