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***Official*** India in Australia

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Don't think I can disagree with much of that SS. The only thing is, I guess Hayden loses 1 point for not playing in Perth? because otherwise, can't really see what else needs to be done to get a 10.

Maybe a tad (and only a tad) bit harsh on Hogg, simply for his Sydney knock. That irritating asshole batted beautifully in Sydney, and probably cost India a chance of victory just as much as the umpires. That knock is enough for him to get a 2. Plus he managed to stop Ganguly who early in the series was looking the goods.

Also, would have probably given Tait 0 :ph34r:
Hogg's rating is rubbish. Got worse as the series went on, but that's just stupid.
I thought I had given him a 2.5, was a typo.
 

Prince EWS

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Slightly harsh on Hogg. I'm not a fan of his bowling by any stretch of the imagination, but he probably deserved more than 1 just on batting alone.
 

Ikki

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In three Tests Hogg has captured eight wickets at an average of 60.12, which is not a number that will be etched on any honourboard. Take away the four times he removed Ganguly and the cost of Harbhajan (twice), Yuvraj Singh and VVS Laxman inflates to 120.25. The figures should be career ending in Tests - he remains the most valuable of one-day bowlers - but Australia's stocks are so unsure a reprieve is possible.
That's gotta be one of the most stupidest things I've ever read.
 
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Nemesis27

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Australian Ratings

Lee-10
Hayden 9.5
Symonds-8.5
Clarke- 7
Clark-7
Hussey-6.5
Johnson-6
Ponting-5.5
Jaques-4
Gilchrist-4
Hogg-2.5
Rogers1
Tait 0.5

Indian Ratings
Sehwag 8
Dravid 4
Tendulkar 8.5
Ganguly 6
Laxman 7.5
Pathan 7.5
Dhoni 5.5
Kumble 8
Harbhajan 6.5
RP Singh 6.5
Sharma 8
Jaffer 2
Khan 3
 

Fusion

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Congrats to Australia for winning a hard-fought series. They deserved to win as they were the better team IMO. India should be able to look at this series with pride though. They played Australia closer than any other country in recent time. And that too IN Aus! If I was an Indian fan, I would be excited about the future of Indian bowling. Great series all-around!

P.S: So has Turb lost his avatar forever? If so, who did he lose it to and what is the new one?
 

Nishant

International 12th Man
yep...well done australia...they played really well....but...India should take a lot of heart frm their performance...it was excellent and really made us indian fans proud. At the start of the series, many had written them off...and u wud here predictions of 4-0 etc around CW. BUT...india put on a fighting performance and IMHO...if the decisions had gone thier way during the sydney test, a lot of things could have been different...including the scoreline in the end. With that said, take nothing away frm the aussies, who always maintain a high level throughout the series.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Grades out of 10 (Australia)


Brett Lee (9.5): Dominating. He is clearly in the best form of his life, and has really become a leader of the Australian attack. No one really got on top of him, and on very flat and unresponsive pitches, you always felt that the next ball would be the one that takes the wicket. The tally of 24 wickets at 22.58 is amazing, considering the pitches and the batting lineups he had to face. He bowled long hard spells without sacrificing speed or accuracy, and was consistently the person his captain relied on to keep the pressure on and keep taking wickets.

Matthew Hayden (9.0): He could be the sole reason India won the test at Perth. Without him, the Aussie top order looked all at sea, and with him, they looked world class. He scored over 400 runs in three matches, and India were always on the back foot when he was playing and scoring runs by the bucketload. With several of the Australian middle order not in their best form, he kept the lineup afloat. His three centuries in five innings says everything you need to know about his performances.

Andrew Symonds (8.5): Bastard. Just one lucky ****ing bastard. But you can't deny his contributions. His innings at Sydney dug Australia out of a hole and set them up for a win. He scored over 400 runs and took nine wickets at 27. He out bowled their front line spinner, and scored runs when his side needed them.

Michael Clarke (7.5): Failed both innings in Sydney with the bat, but did well in the rest of the series, including a century at Adelaide. He only took four wickets, but three of them will haunt Indians for the rest of their lives. The three wickets that he took to win the match in Sydney will definitely be one of his highlights and India would surely have gotten the draw if Ponting hadn't given him the ball.

Stuart Clark (6.5): He was very unlucky most of the time. He bowled very tight and never let the opposition get away. He had 14 wickets, but he could easily have had twenty if things went right for him. Despite being below 130kph much of the time, his bowling always kept the pressure on while Lee was bowling his heart out on the other end. He did well for the first three Tests but couldn't get anything going on a very flaccid pitch at Adelaide.

Mitchell Johnson (6.0): Improved quite a bit as the series went on. He was pretty raw in the beginning, but by the end, it looked like he could support Lee long term. Bowled really well on a flat deck in Adelaide, and generally looked very solid at the Test level.

Michael Hussey (6.0): Can this man be human? We have gotten so used to his run scoring ways, that an average of "only" 48 is considered subpar. Had a great unbeaten century at Sydney, but he never crossed fifty outside of that.

Ricky Ponting (5.0) : Ponting had a very disappointing series by his standards. Averaged less than 40 overall, and though he made a very fighting century in the last match, he had a very ordinary beginning to the series, making 4, 3, 55, 1, 20 and 45. Established himself as Harbhajan's bunny, having been dismissed by him many times in the series, but his century in the final match was gritty and kept Harbhajan out.

Phil Jaques (4.5): Jaques had three fifties in seven innings, but was also dismissed quickly the rest of the time. He had a great match at the MCG, but he wasn't a big factor for the rest of the series. In the absence of Hayden, his twin failures at Perth were a big reason for the Australian loss.

Adam Gilchrist (4.0): Only averaged 21 in his last series, and didn't have the best of time behind the stumps. He wasn't bad, but he wasn't his usual excellent self either. Only passed fifty once in seven innings, and though everyone waited for his aggressive nature to dominate the Indians, he never did. Though he had a disappointing last series, he will be sorely missed by Australia.

Brad Hogg (2.5): Crap with the ball, a little better with the bat. His innings in Sydney was very crucial in the Australian innings. He looked promising with the ball at the MCG but it was all downhill from there. He ended with an average of 60, but probably bowled worse than that. Everytime he came on, someone on the Indian side used him to up the run rate, best exemplified by the reatment of him by Sehwag when he went for 42 runs in five overs despite a 5th day pitch.

Chris Rogers (1.0): Two innings, 19 runs total. It is hard for someone to just come in and fill in for Hayden, but Rogers couldn't get going in either innings, and was a non-factor in the one match he played.

Shaun Tait (0.5): All hype and no performances to back it up. He boasted about wanting to bowl the the fastest delivery in cricket, but was a non-factor in the limited time he got in the match. Went for 92 runs without a wicket, and as the overrate deteriorated, he never got a chance to improve his performances. The pitch at Perth wasn't what it was cracked up to be, but he was often bowling in the 130s and low 140s, and didn't trouble anyone.


I think howardj agreed to do the Indian marks out of ten.
Howardj, your ratings?
 

Burgey

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Australian Ratings

Lee-10
Hayden 9.5
Symonds-8.5
Clarke- 7
Clark-7
Hussey-6.5
Johnson-6
Ponting-5.5
Jaques-4
Gilchrist-4
Hogg-2.5
Rogers1
Tait 0.5

Indian Ratings
Sehwag 8
Dravid 4
Tendulkar 8.5
Ganguly 6
Laxman 7.5
Pathan 7.5
Dhoni 5.5
Kumble 8
Harbhajan 6.5
RP Singh 6.5
Sharma 8
Jaffer 2
Khan 3
Not bad ratings imo, with a copule of differences from my opinion.

Think you're rating Harbhajan a bit high there - really thought he was very disappointing tbh, aside form picking up Poting a few times he really didn't trouble anyone.
Bit harsh on Dravid for mine as well - obviously he struggled but still contributed imo, despite being asked to bat out of position.
 

Top_Cat

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Haha, was just having a coffee with a mate in Adelaide Arcade and Sachin walked past. Signed a couple of autographs, nice guy in general. Not every day you bump into cricketing superstardom. I think he was probably enjoying not being mobbed.

That the event is noteworthy, I feel like such a n00b all of sudden.
 
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Burgey

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Haha, was just having a coffee with a mate in Adelaide Arcade and Sachin walked past. Signed a couple of autographs, nice guy in general. Not every day you bump into cricketing superstardom. I think he was probably enjoying not being mobbed.
That the event from noteworthy, I feel like such a n00b all of sudden.
Until you mobbed him, that is....
 

Burgey

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Not bad.

I think a lot of his appeal has stemmed from his simply being so good at so young an age when he first toured here.

As a kid, he stood up to a pretty dominant Aussie attack that summer and made fans by scoring two tons on two completely different surfaces. I reckon his ton at the WACA on that tour really set him apart for a lot of fans out here - he was a subcontinental batsman who didn't need a change of undies when the ball got above waist height on fast pitches here.
At the time, there was a perception that a lot of Indian batsmen simply could not handle any sort of high bounce, and here was a kid scoring at will on the bounciest pitch in Australia.
 

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