***Official*** Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series 2007-08

[chaminda_00]

Hopes opening the batting for Australia, Vassy likes.

 

[gettingbetter]

My 15 man Australian squad.

I've decided to not play Gilly. He's been brilliant, but I think the time is right for Haddin.

I think 3 to 6 has to be Ponting, Clarke, Symonds, Hussey so that just leaves the opening spot and 7 for our all rounder in Hopes and keeper in Haddin. Haddin opening hasn't really performed so that's why I picked him at 7.

The last batting spot I've ended up picking Dave Hussey. He does deserve it, narrowly ahead of Luke Pomersbach.

1 M Hayden
2 J Hopes
3 R Ponting
4 M Clarke
5 A Symonds
6 M Hussey
7 B Haddin
8 B Hogg
9 B Lee
10 N Bracken
11 S Tait

12 A Voges
13 M Johnson
14 A Noffke
15 D Hussey

Thoughts?

Probably a good looking squad after this series - I have a hunch that Gilly will call it a day, but as you say, the time is right for Haddin to come in. Your XI is pretty much spot on and considering what we saw in the 20/20, 12-14 seems fine too with a bit of conjecture placed on 15, more than likely to be Pomersbach - Australia really don't have a tradition of debuting 30+ y.o.

Also, what is the story on Hodge? Wasn't last year's CB his coming as an ODI player?

 

[Arrow]

It was stupid to not have Sewang and pathan in the first tests and its equally stupid to drop one of their best and most experienced ODI players who is actually in great form. Whats up with the moronic Indian selectors? Trying to look smart and knowing better than everyone probably and just screwing up, I think.

 

[duffer]

Yeah I reckon Hodge is a better player than D.Hussey but form could be a big factor. Hope the blip series he had in India doesn't count against him.

 

[NUFAN]

I know I picked D Hussey, he's averaging a reasonable but not amazing 37.33 this season domestically.

Hodge averaging 24 from 4 games.

http://stats.cricinfo.com/australia...most_runs_career.html?id=3228;type=tournament

 

[adharcric]

Love it. Dravid and Ganguly should step away now - even though it'd be great to see them receive a final standing ovation at home, the earliest that can happen is against England in November, so forget that. Considering that the one-day side will tour Bangladesh and Zimbabwe after this tri-series, the selectors have chosen a great time to bring in the youth.

That said, a few issues ...

Sehwag - he's been an ordinary one-day batsman for ages and being an effective part-time spin option - the one thing that keeps him in the hunt - means even less now that India are likely to play at least one genuine all-rounder. Perhaps he's there to lend some experience to the squad.

Karthik - perhaps the selectors just want cover for Dhoni; otherwise, there is no chance he would or should ever get a shot ahead of Uthappa, Gambhir, Sharma or Raina.

Chawla - he hasn't been at his best this season but it's good to see the selectors looking to the future. Keep an eye on Amit Mishra and Yusuf Pathan.

Tiwary, Pathan and Munaf on standby ...

 

[pasag]

Dropping Hayden whilst in the middle of his peak would be insane. The Ganguly decision makes no sense if they're doing it from a performance perspective either. Yeah those three should give up the shorter format of the game, but it should be their call.

Also, I'm happy to try out a few players like David Hussey as well, heaps of matches so can't hurt.

 

[adharcric]

What the ****? Dropping Ganguly, that has to be one of the stupidest decisions in recent times. India want a slick fielding side, obviously, but do they not care for the runs Ganguly has been making?

WTF!!!
Ganguly had scores of 51,86 and 0 in the 3 ODI matches he played against australia some 70 days back. The selectors have sowed the seeds of another controversy. I wonder what motivation will Saurav,Dravid and laxman have when they go to Adelaide. Remember these 3 along with sachin were the only ones who have scored runs in this test series.

It was stupid to not have Sewang and pathan in the first tests and its equally stupid to drop one of their best and most experienced ODI players who is actually in great form. Whats up with the moronic Indian selectors? Trying to look smart and knowing better than everyone probably and just screwing up, I think.

Uhh, try waiting a few days to find out why he was dropped before getting so worked up over this. Don't be surprised if he retires soon. Even if it had nothing to do with Ganguly retiring, yes it's unfair on Ganguly but from a team perspective I'll still support the move. It's time to give the younger batsmen a chance to settle down before we need to rely on them in test cricket.

 

[Jono]

It was stupid to not have Sewang and pathan in the first tests and its equally stupid to drop one of their best and most experienced ODI players who is actually in great form. Whats up with the moronic Indian selectors? Trying to look smart and knowing better than everyone probably and just screwing up, I think.

I was leaning towards Sehwag in Sydney, and can understand why people wanted him in Melbourne, but honestly who would you have had out for Pathan in Melbourne?

You can't honestly say Yuvraj, because going into the first test vs. Australia in Melbourne with 5 bowlers would have been silly. So you're either saying he should have played ahead of Harbhajan, or RP Singh.

 

[Perm]

Uhh, try waiting a few days to find out why he was dropped before getting so worked up over this. Don't be surprised if he retires soon.

Why? It is a very poor decision. India want to blood youngsters, so they drop the man who has been making so many runs in ODI cricket lately. The reasoning is this;

Explaining the reasons behind ignoring Ganguly and Dravid, BCCI secretary Niranjan Shah said, "The emphasis was on fielding abilities and they wanted a young fielding side for the series. That's why you see a lot of youngsters in the side."

Which, quite frankly, is ****.

 

[adharcric]

I was leaning towards Sehwag in Sydney, and can understand why people wanted him in Melbourne, but honestly who would you have had out for Pathan in Melbourne?

You can't honestly say Yuvraj, because going into the first test vs. Australia in Melbourne with 5 bowlers would have been silly. So you're either saying he should have played ahead of Harbhajan, or RP Singh.

He's not saying either. He's speaking in retrospect and I'm sure he wouldn't have picked Pathan for the first test either. Nobody sane would.

 

[Jono]

He's not saying either. He's speaking in retrospect and I'm sure he wouldn't have picked Pathan for the first test either. Nobody sane would.

I don't think he is.

He's criticising the selectors for not having Pathan in Melbourne. That's saying he would have played him.

 

[vic_orthdox]

My 15 man Australian squad.

I've decided to not play Gilly. He's been brilliant, but I think the time is right for Haddin.

I think 3 to 6 has to be Ponting, Clarke, Symonds, Hussey so that just leaves the opening spot and 7 for our all rounder in Hopes and keeper in Haddin. Haddin opening hasn't really performed so that's why I picked him at 7.

The last batting spot I've ended up picking Dave Hussey. He does deserve it, narrowly ahead of Luke Pomersbach. A backup opener may come into calculations too..

1 M Hayden
2 J Hopes
3 R Ponting
4 M Clarke
5 A Symonds
6 M Hussey
7 B Haddin
8 B Hogg
9 B Lee
10 N Bracken
11 S Tait

12 A Voges
13 M Johnson
14 A Noffke
15 D Hussey

Thoughts?

You want your best batsmen facing as many balls as possible in OD cricket. Hopes isn't in the best 15 One Day batsmen in Australia.

 

[adharcric]

I don't think he is.

He's criticising the selectors for not having Pathan in Melbourne. That's saying he would have played him.

Haha, I know he's telling you that. I'm implying that it's a bunch of bull.

 

[Jono]

Lol, my bad adharcric.

 

[NUFAN]

You want your best batsmen facing as many balls as possible in OD cricket. Hopes isn't in the best 15 One Day batsmen in Australia.

Can't see how Hopes making his runs at a good clip will be too much of a problem.

 

[adharcric]

Why? It is a very poor decision. India want to blood youngsters, so they drop the man who has been making so many runs in ODI cricket lately. The reasoning is this;



Which, quite frankly, is ****.

That's fine. The move may be unfair on Dravid and Ganguly but I think it's fine for Indian cricket.

 

[Perm]

That's fine. The move may be unfair on Dravid and Ganguly but I think it's fine for Indian cricket.

How? Basically you are sacrificing plenty of runs from the blade or Dravid or Ganguly to ensure you stop maybe 5-10 runs in the field, which is a generous amount that one person would save.

 

[adharcric]

How? Basically you are sacrificing plenty of runs from the blade or Dravid or Ganguly to ensure you stop maybe 5-10 runs in the field, which is a generous amount that one person would save.

No, you're not necessarily sacrificing runs because you don't know how Raina and Sharma will do. Look, if I was the selector (unless Dravid, Ganguly plan to retire now) I wouldn't have dropped these two. All I'm saying is that there are positives to them being dropped and it's not as bad as it's being made out to be. The unfortunate part is that there are two wasted spots in Sehwag and Karthik.

EDIT: Badrinath left out again. Damn.

 

[adharcric]

Why the hell do you need 16 members for a one-day tournament? Bet you there'll be at least two guys who won't get a match and could've benefited from Duleep Trophy action instead. Ridiculous.