Socceroos and Australian Football

[ash chaulk]

we are the GLORY the GLORY shed boys!

 

[Dark Hunter]

I think the fact that we started to get players back from injury has more to do with it, then the change of coach. It meant that we had more options and didn't have to carry an semi fit Juninho. Don't think we are playing that much better then we did in those ACL matches against the Reds and co.

Looks as if Roar dominated the match and we were lucky to get away with a draw. Perth 2-1 up after half time. Probably the worst result if your a Victory fan. Looks like Adelaide might be out of the race, unless they pull off something special.

There is no race now that the Jets won their game. No one else can make the finals except whose in the top 4 now. Its just places to be decided.

 

[Johnners]

I think the fact that we started to get players back from injury has more to do with it, then the change of coach. It meant that we had more options and didn't have to carry an semi fit Juninho. Don't think we are playing that much better then we did in those ACL matches against the Reds and co.

Looks as if Roar dominated the match and we were lucky to get away with a draw. Perth 2-1 up after half time. Probably the worst result if your a Victory fan. Looks like Adelaide might be out of the race, unless they pull off something special.

QLD missed Reinaldo, as Lynch again failed to deliver. Sounds like the 2nd half was dead boring though apart from the last 5 minutes.

 

[Captain Cricket]

Melbourne and Adelaide out of the finals due to Newcastle's win.

Joel Griffiths has been on absolute fire this year I have to say.

 

[Mister Wright]

We can see why you're a global moderator. Make excellent & constructive posts.

Ssshhh. They might find out.

 

[Cloete]

Queensland ftw. Good crowd last night too. Shame Marcinho choked. Minniecon, Kruse and Zullo are sensational btw. AND HOW THE **** WAS THAT NOT A PENALTY ON MINNIECON!?

 

[Captain Cricket]

Yeah the one on Minnecioni should've been paid, I watched the match last night and I thought the skills were better than what I've seen earlier in the year...

 

[Davey]

yea the refs definately have to be a lot stricter... i hate how creative play at times is just stamped out because of the over-physicalness...

we have plenty of other sports that accommodate that

 

[Captain Cricket]

Less leniancy more skill I reckon. Players need to use their brain and skill to overcome anything frees the refs are paying against them.

 

[Captain Cricket]

Btw what does everyone think of Pim Verbeek? I think he'll be good. He's taking the job seriously, going to the effort of visiting A-League games and he seems like he knows his stuff. I hope he's as good (or even better) than Guus Hiddink.

 

[chaminda_00]

Btw what does everyone think of Pim Verbeek? I think he'll be good. He's taking the job seriously, going to the effort of visiting A-League games and he seems like he knows his stuff. I hope he's as good (or even better) than Guus Hiddink.

No chances, but it wouldn't surprise me if he becomes a better option then Dick Advocaat.

Still can't see us getting through to next round playing matches with all A-League sides. Would go the U23s approach and rotate the European players who clubs don't want them to play all the games. You have to remember that the U23s matches weren't on FIFA dates and they still got most of their players back. There are fair few players who are better then the A-League players, who's club wouldn't have a major problem releasing them to play for Australia.

 

[chaminda_00]

yea the refs definately have to be a lot stricter... i hate how creative play at times is just stamped out because of the over-physicalness...

we have plenty of other sports that accommodate that

Nature of Australian football is too many defenders would be taken out of the game if they become more harder on rough tackles. The balance will always be towards the defenders in Australia football, compared to other leagues.

 

[Davey]

Yeah but what about the Italian game

that is pretty defensive as well, yet they dont feel the need to use over the top challenges

Really, to succeed these days (especially when you look at the type of players the big clubs want) creativity and technique is vital..

I reckon we will realise this soon enough, but i sincerely hope we dont learn this the hard way e.g Not qualifying for the WC 2010.. imo that would be a disaster for football here because really it was the success in 2006 that put alot of people on the bandwagon in the first place..


AS for using a totally based A-league side, yea i kind of agree with you... what is going to be interesting is how Verbeek instils the Dutch style with these players.. because lets be honest, things like playing out of hte back etc.. most A-league clubs dont do.. so it will be foreign to alot of these players.. It can be done though, but its wierd that the training camps are so short....

 

[chaminda_00]

What happens if all four sides finish on 34 pts, is the premiership decided on goal difference?

 

[Johnners]

Yep, sure does. If Queensland wins, they take the minor premiership.

 

[Captain Cricket]

Victory to beat Sydney FC 3-0 imo.

 

[chaminda_00]

Sydney drew with Victory.

Roar is currently 1-0 down aginst the Adelaide

 

[NUFAN]

Sydney drew with Victory.

Roar is currently 1-0 down aginst the Adelaide

FFS

If we do finish 4th though, I think we (Roar) have just as much chance of beating Mariners away, as beating Sydney at home.

Obv. finishing 1st and going to Asia would be great though, but that can still happen.

 

[chaminda_00]

Roar ended up losing 2-0.

Don't think it matters at all where teams finish, as anyone of the four side can win the championship. Winning a minor premiership on goal difference is pretty dire, so good that a dire team like CC won it that way. Should be the best finals series so far in the A-League.

 

[NUFAN]

FFS

If we do finish 4th though, I think we (Roar) have just as much chance of beating Mariners away, as beating Sydney at home.

Obv. finishing 1st and going to Asia would be great though, but that can still happen.

Was thinking about this earlier. I was wrong..

Here is the schedule.

Minor semi-final
3-Sydney FC v 4-Queensland Roar
1st leg: Sydney Football Stadium, Friday January 25
2nd leg: Suncorp Stadium, Friday February 8

(winner to play in preliminary final, loser eliminated)

Major semi-final
1-Central Coast v 2-Newcastle Jets
1st leg: EnergyAustralia Stadium, Sunday January 27
2nd leg: Bluetongue Stadium, Sunday February 10