***Official*** India in Australia

[Isolator]

all the Aussie team formally educated on the fact that it is a more serious word to use to an Indian. And if it happens again, they should be banned.

...

I disagree, in the circumstance that you are dealing with someone from another culture. To use your example, if you had a visiting group of Americans, would you use the n-word to them? Or if you had a visiting group of Jewish people, or Gypsies, would you use the Nazi salute or display the swastika near them?

As your first sentence says, it's a question of awareness. I would not do those things but I know that there's a whole lot of people on the planet who are unaware that using the N-word, for example, is offensive to many. In Harbhajan's case, I agree with you, I'm pretty sure that by now everyone in the Indian cricket team knows that it has racist implications.

Whether he actually did say it is another thing...

 

[sideshowtim]

Blackmail. Plain and simple blackmail. It's absolutely bloody disgusting.

 

[Johnners]

Funny stuff :-)
Some new rules.....

(1) Ricky Ponting – (THE TRULY GENUINE CRICKETER OF THE CRICKET ERA AND WHOSE INTEGRITY SHOULD NOT BE DOUBTED) should be considered as the FOURTH UMPIRE. As per the new rules, FOURTH UMPIRE decision is final and will over ride any decisions taken by any other umpires. ON-FIELD umpires can seek the assistance of RICKY PONTING even if he is not on the field. This rule is to be made, so that every team should understand the importance of the FOURTH UMPIRE.



(2) While AUSTRALIAN TEAM is bowling, If the ball flies anywhere close to the AUSTRALIAN FIELDER(WITHIN 5 metre distance), the batsman is to be considered OUT irrelevant of whether the catch was taken cleanly or grassed. Any decision for further clarification should be seeked from the FOURTH UMPIRE. This is made to ensure that the cricket is played with SPORTIVE SPIRIT by all the teams.



(3) While BATTING, AUSTRALIAN players will wait for the ON-FIELD UMPIRE decisions only (even if the catch goes to the FIFTH SLIP as the ball might not have touched the bat). Each AUSTRALIAN batsman has to be out FOUR TIMES (minimum) before he can return to the pavilion. In case of THE CRICKETER WITH INTEGRITY, this can be higher.



(4) UMPIRES should consider a huge bonus if an AUSTRALIAN player scores a century. Any wrong decisions can be ignored as they will be paid huge bonus and will receive the backing of the AUSTRALIAN team and board.



(5) All AUSTRALIAN players are eligible to keep commenting about all players on the field and the OPPONENT TEAM should never comment as they will be spoiling the spirit of the AUSTRALIAN team. Any comments made in any other language are to be considered as RACIALISM only.



(6) MATCH REFREE decisions will be taken purely on the AUSTRALIAN TEAM advices only. Player views from the other teams decisions will not be considered for hearing. MATCH REFREES are to be given huge bonus if this rule is implemented.



(7) NO VISITING TEAM should plan to win in AUSTRALIA. This is to ensure that the sportive spirit of CRICKET is maintained.



(8) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE: If any bowler gets RICKY PONTING - “THE UNDISPUTED CRICKETER WITH INTEGTIRY IN THE GAME OF CRICKET” more than twice in a series, he will be banned for the REST OF THE SERIES. This is to ensure that the best batsman/Captain will be played to break records and create history in the game of CRICKET.



These rules will clarify better to the all the teams VISITING AUSTRALIA

Post reported, Troll.

 

[Matt79]

Unspeakably poor by the BCCI - hope they don't carry out their threat. The best thing that could happen now if that the tour proceeds and the players are sensible enough to try and play nicely with each other and try to mend some fences.

 

[Cevno]

Well that's what the referee needs to decide, and why I'm saying that there should be education, not a ban, for a first offence with a word. But to suggest after the incident in October that the Indian team weren't aware that Symonds found 'monkey' genuinely offensive is not credible IMO.

There have been many instances of players complaining about aussie abuse and media ruckus's created.
so if their team does it again then ban all of them?

 

[Nate]

I honestly hope Nathan Bracken never wears the baggy green again. he sucks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Mizz_Independent/***_secretBAMfo.png

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Yeah, FSN reporting it now too. Toys, out, pram, etc.

The ICC simply can not back down here.

 

[Andrew Pollock]

Funny stuff :-)
Some new rules.....

(1) Ricky Ponting – (THE TRULY GENUINE CRICKETER OF THE CRICKET ERA AND WHOSE INTEGRITY SHOULD NOT BE DOUBTED) should be considered as the FOURTH UMPIRE. As per the new rules, FOURTH UMPIRE decision is final and will over ride any decisions taken by any other umpires. ON-FIELD umpires can seek the assistance of RICKY PONTING even if he is not on the field. This rule is to be made, so that every team should understand the importance of the FOURTH UMPIRE.



(2) While AUSTRALIAN TEAM is bowling, If the ball flies anywhere close to the AUSTRALIAN FIELDER(WITHIN 5 metre distance), the batsman is to be considered OUT irrelevant of whether the catch was taken cleanly or grassed. Any decision for further clarification should be seeked from the FOURTH UMPIRE. This is made to ensure that the cricket is played with SPORTIVE SPIRIT by all the teams.



(3) While BATTING, AUSTRALIAN players will wait for the ON-FIELD UMPIRE decisions only (even if the catch goes to the FIFTH SLIP as the ball might not have touched the bat). Each AUSTRALIAN batsman has to be out FOUR TIMES (minimum) before he can return to the pavilion. In case of THE CRICKETER WITH INTEGRITY, this can be higher.



(4) UMPIRES should consider a huge bonus if an AUSTRALIAN player scores a century. Any wrong decisions can be ignored as they will be paid huge bonus and will receive the backing of the AUSTRALIAN team and board.



(5) All AUSTRALIAN players are eligible to keep commenting about all players on the field and the OPPONENT TEAM should never comment as they will be spoiling the spirit of the AUSTRALIAN team. Any comments made in any other language are to be considered as RACIALISM only.



(6) MATCH REFREE decisions will be taken purely on the AUSTRALIAN TEAM advices only. Player views from the other teams decisions will not be considered for hearing. MATCH REFREES are to be given huge bonus if this rule is implemented.



(7) NO VISITING TEAM should plan to win in AUSTRALIA. This is to ensure that the sportive spirit of CRICKET is maintained.



(8) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE: If any bowler gets RICKY PONTING - “THE UNDISPUTED CRICKETER WITH INTEGTIRY IN THE GAME OF CRICKET” more than twice in a series, he will be banned for the REST OF THE SERIES. This is to ensure that the best batsman/Captain will be played to break records and create history in the game of CRICKET.



These rules will clarify better to the all the teams VISITING AUSTRALIA

Great post

 

[JBH001]

You know, I have a feeling that if it had been just the umpiring or the the Harbhajab - Symonds spat then things would have cooled down and sorted themselves out.

But the combination of the two seems a little difficult to get over.

And I have a feeling that this will turn into an acrimonious and poor tour, all things considered.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Make that 15,000 posts.

 

[duffer]

There have been many instances of players complaining about aussie abuse and media ruckus's created.
so if their team does it again then ban all of them?

That's the thing, if there's now going to be a crackdown on all abuse on the field then it'll be interesting to say the least seeing the Aussie's trying to tone down their behaviour on the pitch.

 

[Johnners]

The ICC simply can not back down here.

Probably wouldn't be the best thing to take any action until they say they won't be taking any part in the 3rd test, or indeed any tour matches, because technically until then, they really haven't done anything wrong.

 

[Matt79]

There have been many instances of players complaining about aussie abuse and media ruckus's created.
so if their team does it again then ban all of them?

There is 'general' abuse, for want of a better term, and then there are particular kinds of abuse that are expressly forbidden by the ICC code of conduct, eg. abuse based on race, ethnicity, ***uality, skin colour. To my knowledge, where Australian players have been found guilty of abusing people in those terms, they have been banned, eg. Darren Lehmann's ban.

 

[vic_orthdox]

At the very least, you'd think that these ICC Match Referee hearings will have to become more transparent and reasons for findings released a lot earlier as a result of this uproar.

 

[JBH001]

The ICC simply can not back down here.

If its anything more than an empty threat to quit the series. Agreed.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Probably wouldn't be the best thing to take any action until they say they won't be taking any part in the 3rd test, or indeed any tour matches, because technically until then, they really haven't done anything wrong.

I mean they can't afford to overturn his ban.

 

[JBH001]

But Harbhajan can play until the appeal process. Can he not?

(Though come to that, I dont think he should be playing in Perth anyway)

 

[duffer]

There is 'general' abuse, for want of a better term, and then there are particular kinds of abuse that are expressly forbidden by the ICC code of conduct, eg. abuse based on race, ethnicity, ***uality, skin colour. To my knowledge, where Australian players have been found guilty of abusing people in those terms, they have been banned, eg. Darren Lehmann's ban.

But you can't discount the possibility that inappropriate abuse has occured before and under the guise of "what happens on the field, stays on the field." I think that's the point that Gavaskar and Greig were trying to make, why is it such a huge deal now when in the past you can almost guarantee they let a lot of this sort of bile go?

 

[Cevno]

Unspeakably poor by the BCCI - hope they don't carry out their threat. The best thing that could happen now if that the tour proceeds and the players are sensible enough to try and play nicely with each other and try to mend some fences.

The thing is that the team management is saying that proctor was biased and did not give them any evidence and was just adamant that aussies were right.
If that is right then coupled with umpiring decisions and aussies getting away with excessive appealing,not waiting for umpires decision,showing dissent.saying offensive terms ,claiming wrong catches thend it is abolutely right.

 

[Cevno]

But you can't discount the possibility that inappropriate abuse has occured before and under the guise of "what happens on the field, stays on the field." I think that's the point that Gavaskar and Greig were trying to make, why is it such a huge deal now when in the past you can almost guarantee they let a lot of this sort of bile go?

absolutely agree.
when they do it ,it is " mental disintegration" but when somebody else does it then "racism"
and the line has to be drawn according to them between these two.