Hitting the rope on the full should score you...

[Engle]

What if the ball hits rope and the ground (within the boundary) at the same time ?
For non-Test matches or those having a white marker, the same applies. What if the ball fell partly on the white marker and partly inside the boundary ? The same law should apply in both cases.

I say, if it doesnt clear the marker, it ain't six

 

[Jamee999]

Six.

 

[ozone]

6. Why change something which works well enough as it is.

 

[33/3from3.3]

I'm pretty sure that should be four. And perusing Law 19 supports that:

b) Unless agreed differently under (a) above, the allowances for boundaries shall be 6 runs if the ball having been struck by the bat pitches beyond the boundary, but otherwise 4 runs. These allowances shall still apply even though the ball has previously touched a fielder. See also (c) below.

Yeah, that is the law. We are discussing what it should score you...Which by the story of the poll is Six runs.

 

[Matt79]

I'm pretty sure that should be four. And perusing Law 19 supports that:

b) Unless agreed differently under (a) above, the allowances for boundaries shall be 6 runs if the ball having been struck by the bat pitches beyond the boundary, but otherwise 4 runs. These allowances shall still apply even though the ball has previously touched a fielder. See also (c) below.

True, but the rope is beyond the boundary, in the sense that the field of play is inside the rope. Anything touching the rope, and the rope itself are outside the boundary.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Andrew Symonds did it. Hence, zero.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

True, but the rope is beyond the boundary, in the sense that the field of play is inside the rope. Anything touching the rope, and the rope itself are outside the boundary.

The whole rope isn't beyond the boundary. Assuming a rope is being used the inside edge of the rope is the boundary.

 

[Engle]

True, but the rope is beyond the boundary, in the sense that the field of play is inside the rope. Anything touching the rope, and the rope itself are outside the boundary.

Is there anything in the laws that says this ? Or anything about a rope ?

Assume the boundary is a white marker, lets say 2-3 inches thick.
a) Now, take a ball and place it half way on the marker and on the inner green. Is this a 4 or a 6 ?

b) Now place the ball exactly on the marker. Again, 4 or 6 ?

c) Now place the ball halfway on the marker and outer green. Again, 4 or 6 ?

Which is why I say the ball has to clear the marker for a 6. Anything else s/b a 4

 

[Matt79]

I'll just check my copy of the laws of the game, without which I'm never with... damn, seem to have misplaced it.

I agree with what Lillian Thompson said, only the very inside edge, the innermost part of the rope is the actual boundary. I'm certainly not aware of anything saying that the boundary has any width, or any set width, so I don't think you can assume its 2-3 inches thick. If that was the case, the fact that the boundary is marked in a completely inconsistent way around the world is a big problem. If a fielder is touching said innermost part, and also touching the ball, that's a boundary. If a ball gently rolls into the rope and comes to rest touching the rope, but not having crossed it, that's a boundary. The moment it touches the rope its a boundary. So by definition, to my way of thinking through the logic of this, the rope is in reality outside of the boundary, as in if the ball touches it, its already outside the field of play. Its kinda like the rules with the crease for no-balls, stumpings and run outs. On the line is gone, you need something behind the line to be in.

I said 'boundary' too many times in that paragraph.

 

[Matt79]

To answer your three questions:
a) if it got there on the full, 6
b) 6
c) 6

 

[Engle]

The reason for my choosing a marker width of 2-3 inches is, I estimate, the width of the rope. Something visible from afar.

Let's say you're playing on a local green without the benefit of TV replays. The boundary is a white marker. No rope.

The ball is hit high towards the long-on/off boundary.
No fielder or spectator is close by to see exactly where it fell.

All eyes follow the ball.

Would it not be easier to see if the ball has bounced beyond the marker ( 6 ) or not ( 4 ) ?

 

[Matt79]

Yeah, its easier, but that doesn't make that the rule.