What's the matter with Watson's batting?

[four_or_six]

If he bats #6 for Australia then he generally won't be out there for too many overs, just enough to hit a quick 30* or so on most occasions. However, opening, the pressure will be placed upon him to bat through, since he doesn't score as quickly as the other batsmen in the line-up, and he could well spend a long time at the crease. If he bats for a long time and becomes fatigued, then Australia have a bowler who won't be as fresh as he should be.

I guess I really think that if he plays tests for Australia, it will be as a batsman first and the bowling will be a bonus, so it's not too much of a problem. If nothing else, proving he can open might just edge him into the 'reserve batsman' spot on a tour and put him there to have the opportunity if someone's injured anywhere in the line-up.

But it's all a long way off, and looking at it from a Qld point of view, the move really seems to make sense. They're stacked with all-rounders in the middle and need someone to put their hand up at the top. That said, I don't understand why Maher had to move down, Watson and Maher together would seem far more sensible.

 

[MattO]

Watson failed again this time against NSW in both forms of the game.

Should he even be in the Queensland side on current form?

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

The ball he got in the OD game would've got anyone out. It was a bloody gem from Cameron.

He needs to move down the order in the Pura, and it looks like that's what's happening for the next game.

 

[Nate]

Fiery - stop posting.

 

[Fiery]

Watson failed again this time against NSW in both forms of the game.

Should he even be in the Queensland side on current form?

Let's have a look at his first class stats for this year and decide:

6 digs, 28 runs at ave 4.66 with 4 ducks. Possibly not

 

[Fiery]

Fiery - stop posting.

Why? You are. **** off

 

[Johnners]

Watson failed again this time against NSW in both forms of the game.

Should he even be in the Queensland side on current form?

Let's have a look at his first class stats for this year and decide:

6 digs, 28 runs at ave 4.66 with 4 ducks. Possibly not

Of course he should be in the team, he's had 3 poor matches, batting in a position he's unfamiliar with, as compared to 5-6 by the rest of the QLD batsmen (noffke & simpson excluded) so I think it's fair to say he deserves a bit of leway. Thats not forgetting the fact that he's arguably the best batsmen in the team ATM (not on current form, obviously).

 

[Fiery]

Fiery - stop posting.

Watson's form is proving to me what I suspected all along. That he is just not good enough to be playing for Australia. That fact it comes from me, obviously irks some people. It's just not on for a kiwi to bag an average Aussie player yet it's OK for them to chant "Hadlee's a wanker!" to a legendary one

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Why? You are. **** off

 

[Fiery]

Where. To "Your mother's"?

 

[Nate]

Watson's form is proving to me what I suspected all along. That he is just not good enough to be playing for Australia. That fact it comes from me, obviously irks some people. It's just not on for a kiwi to bag an average Aussie player yet it's OK for them to chant "Hadlee's a wanker!" to a legendary one

You're in every thread. With the same thing each time. Your view is stupidly uneducated and hence freaking frustrating.
Haven't seen anyone on here type "Hadlee's a wanker!". And even if they do, show some spine by not giving it straight back.

 

[Top_Cat]

Haven't seen anyone on here type "Hadlee's a wanker!".

Might have something to do with the fact that Hadlee retired before a lot of CW posters were born!

 

[Fiery]

You're in every thread. With the same thing each time. Your view is stupidly uneducated and hence freaking frustrating.
Haven't seen anyone on here type "Hadlee's a wanker!". And even if they do, show some spine by not giving it straight back.

What are you, about 17? You get a university education, travel the world, buy a house and have a family and then come and talk to me about education. This is the only thread I have talked about Watson in so put a sock in it and don't talk to me about being "stupid" and "spineless", young fella

 

[Johnners]

Watson's form is proving to me what I suspected all along. That he is just not good enough to be playing for Australia. That fact it comes from me, obviously irks some people. It's just not on for a kiwi to bag an average Aussie player yet it's OK for them to chant "Hadlee's a wanker!" to a legendary one

Haha, love how you always make yourself sound like the innocent victim. Noones saying you can't bag an Aussie player, we just get pissed off when you troll about it and do nothing but flamebait, which you openly admit to doing.

 

[Fiery]

Haha, love how you always make yourself sound like the innocent victim. Noones saying you can't bag an Aussie player, we just get pissed off when you troll about it and do nothing but flamebait, which you openly admit to doing.

Always seems to wind exactly the same people up too.

 

[MattO]

Always seems to wind exactly the same people up too.

Very hard to bait people about Watson's form right now to be honest. The runs aren't simply on the board and he's a batting bunny and cheap wicket. Watson's current form indicates he should be confined to the Grade ranks. His form doesn't warrant walk up selection in the Queensland side, let alone a recall to the Aussie side. It's disappointing as talent is there and effort is there. His mental strength along with durability and toughness are missing.

 

[Nate]

What are you, about 17? You get a university education, travel the world, buy a house and have a family and then come and talk to me about education. This is the only thread I have talked about Watson in so put a sock in it and don't talk to me about being "stupid" and "spineless", young fella

19, at Uni, just been to England for a year, own a flat and have a woman. But you know what? That has nothing to do with an accurate representation of Shane Watson's batting. How many times have you seen Watson bat live? Heck, how many times have you seen him bat at all? Unfortunately, my life consists of being an Australian Cricket nerd and hence I am slightly knowledgable about this issue. But I don't go in the Kiwi Domestic Thread and give my views about whoever, because I'm not in a position to know.

Try not to get offended if someone comes back at you, when you run around threads screaming bloody murder.

 

[Fiery]

Very hard to bait people about Watson's form right now to be honest

Obviously it's still very easy

 

[Top_Cat]

Very hard to bait people about Watson's form right now to be honest. The runs aren't simply on the board and he's a batting bunny and cheap wicket. Watson's current form indicates he should be confined to the Grade ranks. His form doesn't warrant walk up selection in the Queensland side, let alone a recall to the Aussie side. It's disappointing as talent is there and effort is there. His mental strength along with durability and toughness are missing.

Dunno if dropping him is the answer, though. Aside from the ducks, he belted the SA attack for 70 the other week so he's obviously still hitting the ball well and you just know they'll drop him and he'll hit a run-a-ball 200 for his club and be back in the side.

I think he's just a bit torn on the sort of player that he wants to be and what the Aussie selectors want or at least what he thinks they want. Classic example of a bloke who's trying to live up to what he perceives expectations to be or gear himself towards a role purely to get back into the Aussie side. Phil Jaques is the perfect example of a bloke who, no matter where you're batting, knows runs are the best argument of all and Watson seems to have too many other things on his mind getting in the way of just scoring runs first and foremost.

It's probably right around the corner but I think someone needs to tell him to forget about the Aussie side, just get runs. Let selection take care of itself because so far, his record this year makes all of his talk about how he knows he can open, deserves a spot in the Aussie side, etc. look empty. Just get runs, son.

 

[Fiery]

19, at Uni, just been to England for a year, own a flat and have a woman. But you know what? That has nothing to do with an accurate representation of Shane Watson's batting. How many times have you seen Watson bat live? Heck, how many times have you seen him bat at all? Unfortunately, my life consists of being an Australian Cricket nerd and hence I am slightly knowledgable about this issue. But I don't go in the Kiwi Domestic Thread and give my views about whoever, because I'm not in a position to know.

Try not to get offended if someone comes back at you, when you run around threads screaming bloody murder.

Good on ya then. Of course I'm going to get offended when someone calls me "stupid", "uneducated" and particularly "spineless". I might pay Australia out a bit but I never resort to that sort of thing.

I have seen Watson bat plenty of times, probably about 20 times. His bowling has never been anything to write home about and fielding pretty average. I was talking about his performances this year since coming back from injury anyway but have never thought he was good enough to be playing for Australia. You should be taking that as a compliment to the strength of your cricket and not an insult