Best bowler of 1990s

[FRAZ]

Will you take my word on it If I say I saw him play plenty of cricket, both on the box and live at the ground in Aus for international cricket and domestic matches. He was an outswing bowler with an off cutter who could from time to time reverse it in to the batsman.

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Yeah you are right and probably thats what I said too . I never meant as if he cannot swing the ball at all .What I meant was that he wasn't a great swinger plus yes this in cutter thing was what I tried to mention in my own words .

 

[funnygirl]

Your posts put me in high doubts about you !!!

what doubts ?

 

[funnygirl]

This one?

Nope .ur least favourite pacer

 

[tooextracool]

Waqar Younis. I can understand the concept of longevity when assessing the value of a bowler's record, however when someone manages to acquire 19 5 wicket hauls in 4 year period from 1990-1994(Ambrose managed 22 over his entire career while Donald only managed 20), i think its safe to conclude that Waqar, during that phase, was better than any of the bowlers on that list and by a considerable distance.

 

[tooextracool]

Akram if we're talking both tests and ODIs I reckon

I find it hard to fathom how Akram is a better bowler than Ambrose in ODIs. For mine Akram was the perennial showman, while Ambrose was the relentless bulldog of the 90s. The only time i can remember Ambrose being taken apart in an ODI was by Cronje in a game in SA in 99.

 

[tooextracool]

A top-five for me would look something like:
Donald
Ambrose
Wasim Akram
McGrath
Pollock.

Mcgrath was by all means a brilliant bowler in the 1990s, but i do not agree with having him amongst the top 5 of the 90s, not at the expense of Waqar Younis or Shane Warne. It is common knowledge that Mcgrath came into the series in India in 00/01 with a very ordinary record in the subcontinent and with a point to prove. As such his lack of variety and pace at the time, or to be more specific, his inability to bowl effective cutters and get the ball to reverse, made him a useful but not dangerous option. As far as I am concerned, even in India in 2001, he was good but made to look far more brilliant by some wholly ordinary batting from the Indians. Infact Gillespie left the land with a more enhance reputation after that tour. For me, the Mcgrath from 02/03 onwards was much better than the Mcgrath before said period. There is no doubt in my mind that Mcgrath is a better bowler than Ambrose overall, but IMO, there is also little doubt that he did not possess the same arsenal in the 90s as he did in the latter half of his career.

 

[tooextracool]

Damien Fleming was a very fine bowler IMO, His career was shortened due to injury.Not saying that he desrves to be in the list but IMO he was the second best Aussie bowler in 1999-2000. I would rate him above Vaas.

Troubled my man Graeme Hick a fair bit when he did play against him and anyone who can do that gets props from me.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Troubled my man Graeme Hick a fair bit when he did play against him and anyone who can do that gets props from me.

Like Merv Hughes?

 

[funnygirl]

I find it hard to fathom how Akram is a better bowler than Ambrose in ODIs. For mine Akram was the perennial showman, while Ambrose was the relentless bulldog of the 90s. The only time i can remember Ambrose being taken apart in an ODI was by Cronje in a game in SA in 99.

I didn't know that .Wasim was showboating in his whole career and especially in 90s .Thanks for the information.Let me see .

Mat overs runs wkts bb1 bb2 average econo Sr 4w 5w

Ambrose; 135 1188 4137 160 5/32 5/53 25.85 3.48 44.5 3 2 Great Economy there .

Wasim ; 195 1704.2 6531 279 5/15 5/16 23.40 3.83 36.6 13 3 <<<<< Far from a ''mere show man ''.

Played more matches especially in subcontinent pitches .

Plus Man of the final of a world cup .No need for such a big surprise .

 

[stephen]

Warne easily. Warne was at his peak during the 90s - those wonder years of '93 and '94 were truly special. Never as good in the noughties. Cricket in the 90s was defined by one man: Warne.

AWTA.

His injuries cost him somewhat, but for his sheer brilliance in changing the face of the game between 93 and 98, I would have to say that he is the definitive bowler of the 90s for me. The flipper in particular was absolutely devestating during that period.

 

[FRAZ]

I've never drunk in my life but when you make such silly mistakes you must not be in your senses.Although alcohol is prohibited,there's a very small percentage of muslims who drink & its easily available.

hehe

 

[FRAZ]

btw Why Walsh has been ignored in most of the posts ? Walsh has been a brilliant brilliant player in the 90's and he gotta be there in the top 5 atleast and mind ya guys that if it wasn't Walsh with Ambrose in 90's then Windies might have been the same in the 90's as they are now .

 

[BhupinderSingh]

btw Why Walsh has been ignored in most of the posts ? Walsh has been a brilliant brilliant player in the 90's and he gotta be there in the top 5 atleast and mind ya guys that if it wasn't Walsh with Ambrose in 90's then Windies might have been the same in the 90's as they are now .

Nah,Ian Bishop.During early & mid 90s,Bishop used to share the new ball with Ambrose while Walsh was considered a backup first change bowler & its only in the late 1990s that Walsh improved as a bowler to a great extent.

 

[FRAZ]

Nah,Ian Bishop.During early & mid 90s,Bishop used to share the new ball with Ambrose while Walsh was considered a backup first change bowler & its only in the late 1990s that he he improved as a bowler to a great extent.

Bishop should also fall in Shoaib's category as the 90's one or two years wonders cuz Bishop wasn't that sort of a prominent bowler in the 90's cuz he didn't play that much ...

 

[Richard]

Nah, Bishop's career had a plentiful span, and he played a decent number of Tests - just could have played a lot more and leaves practically everyone thinking "if only he had".

Bit like Shoaib, indeed.

 

[Slifer]

Yeah i think the loss of Ian Bishop was one of those players things that greatly contributed to Wi great plummet in world cricket during the late 90s

 

[FRAZ]

Yeah i think the loss of Ian Bishop was one of those players things that greatly contributed to Wi great plummet in world cricket during the late 90s

nah
mid !!!

 

[Laurrz]

thought this would be useful for this thread

 

[FRAZ]

Aww ! Waqar Younis wins it !!
Look at his strike rate . Damn !

 

[Top_Cat]

Curtly for me. Followed by Warne then Akram then McGrath then Waqar.