***Official*** India in Australia

[Prince EWS]

Lol a couple of people beat you to it by nine days

Ahh, didn't know that. Fair play.

 

[Richard]

Hence my edit - made before you pointed it out.

Aha. Well, my excuse is that this thread is moving so fast I can't be looking at these pesky edits and I'm sticking to it.

 

[NUFAN]

Was referring to Hauritz playing a test match, not his selection for ODIs. EDIT: Which I realise doesn't make sense because selecting someone with an international ODI cap to their name for a test is not really "plucking them from obscurity", even if it seemed an unlikely thing to occur.
Reckon Miller was a pretty remarkable case, especially as he did so well once he got in and became a huge cult figure - completing the rags to riches story.

Yeah Funky was awesome. Can't believe that he won Test Player of the Year one year. Awesome stuff.

I used to love watching him bat tbh.

 

[iamdavid]

McGain was slightly undervalued, and just in the wrong place in the right time. I think for a bit he'd been written off as a guy who was always going to be a very good district player, but didn't have the tools for FC cricket. This is bowling every week on first day pitches though, and he's deceiving at times. His action looks so simple that you think he won't be doing that much with the ball. He knows his game inside out, and I'd be very confident of an honest performance from him if he were to be picked out of nowhere. However, they have to go with Hogg.

Yeah I've noticed that aswell, his approach and action are so simple that you'd liken them to a part-timer or someone mucking around in the nets. However he seems very, very consistent for a wrist-spinner, havent seen alot of him bowling but I've noticed theres no MacGill-espe loose ball per over. Have also noticed he dosent seem to lose his head when batsman really get after him, which would be handy if he were picked against India.
Appears very fit for his age aswell, dont think injuries or fatigue are going to be an issue with his fitness and the simplicity of his action.

 

[Matt79]

He could be a new age Clarrie Grimmett!

 

[Mister Wright]

Only realised he was 35 when I saw a report about him on tv. Thought he was a lot younger than that tbh.

 

[irfan]

Don't know what all the fuss concerning the 4th bowler is about.....

It should be a straight swap, McGain for McGill. Gain a lot, lose the fish.

I am pretty sure it's an unwritten Australian selection policy that they must select a Macca in our attack. If it ain't MacGill, it's McGrath or it's McDermott and even McIntyre. Hopefully McDonald would keep the Macca flame goin in the future. So, unfortunately for the other contenders - Hogg, Tait, Hilfenahus, Noffke - due to their vagaries of their last name and their inability to co-operate under the Macca umbrella they shall not be considered for McBoxing Day..

 

[Laurrz]

"What we need is to prepare wickets that suit our cricket rather than the Indians," said former Aussie skipper Border.

"If it is slow and low the Indians really come into the contest. They like that sort of surface.

"That is the worrying thing for me. You should try to get a bit more bounce - it doesn't have to be sideways movement - then it will suit our cricket."

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completely agree with the last paragraph...

 

[silentstriker]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22889037-5006372,00.html

Yea, can't disagree from an Aussie point of view. As an Indian supporter, I would be downright giddy if the surface was slow, low and offered turn. I would actually say that you shouldn't really prepare pitches that offer sideways movement, but more bounce and pace. Indian batsmen of late have been decent at the sideway movement stuff (see England tour), but they struggle a lot if someone is bowling 90+mph balls that go past their noses (see how much they struggled with Tremmlet with his height, even if he wasn't express). Obviously both sideways and up and down might be ideal, but Indian bowlers can utilize the swing pretty well these days....but we lack the really tall bowlers, or the really fast bowlers.

 

[jeevan]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22889037-5006372,00.html

Yea, can't disagree from an Aussie point of view. As an Indian supporter, I would be downright giddy if the surface was slow, low and offered turn. I would actually say that you shouldn't really prepare pitches that offer sideways movement, but more bounce and pace. Indian batsmen of late have been decent at the sideway movement stuff (see England tour), but they struggle a lot if someone is bowling 90+mph balls that go past their noses (see how much they struggled with Tremmlet with his height, even if he wasn't express). Obviously both sideways and up and down might be ideal, but Indian bowlers can utilize the swing pretty well these days....but we lack the really tall bowlers, or the really fast bowlers.

Isn't Ishant Sharma supposed to be 6'4"? ,ie a little over 1.9m. If he matures (ie not on this tour) and stays fit, he could fix that.

 

[Laurrz]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22889037-5006372,00.html

Yea, can't disagree from an Aussie point of view. As an Indian supporter, I would be downright giddy if the surface was slow, low and offered turn. I would actually say that you shouldn't really prepare pitches that offer sideways movement, but more bounce and pace. Indian batsmen of late have been decent at the sideway movement stuff (see England tour), but they struggle a lot if someone is bowling 90+mph balls that go past their noses (see how much they struggled with Tremmlet with his height, even if he wasn't express). Obviously both sideways and up and down might be ideal, but Indian bowlers can utilize the swing pretty well these days....but we lack the really tall bowlers, or the really fast bowlers.

exactly, sideways movement would mean nothing... India have some bowlers that can exploit that really well and no batsmen likes sideways movement...

on the other hand if its fast and bouncy Aussie batsmen LOVE it ... playing pulls and cuts etc. ...whereas there bowlers/spinner also love it and the opposition batsmen don't

 

[Salamuddin]

Isn't Ishant Sharma supposed to be 6'4"? ,ie a little over 1.9m. If he matures (ie not on this tour) and stays fit, he could fix that.

Yeah Ishant is 6"4. Pankaj Singh who's another upcoming paceman is 6"6. They'd have to be among the tallest pacemen produced by India.

Can only think of Kuruvilla who was around that height.

 

[NUFAN]

Don't know what all the fuss concerning the 4th bowler is about.....

It should be a straight swap, McGain for McGill. Gain a lot, lose the fish.

I am pretty sure it's an unwritten Australian selection policy that they must select a Macca in our attack. If it ain't MacGill, it's McGrath or it's McDermott and even McIntyre. Hopefully McDonald would keep the Macca flame goin in the future. So, unfortunately for the other contenders - Hogg, Tait, Hilfenahus, Noffke - due to their vagaries of their last name and their inability to co-operate under the Macca umbrella they shall not be considered for McBoxing Day..

good work.

 

[Manee]

Yeah Ishant is 6"4. Pankaj Singh who's another upcoming paceman is 6"6. They'd have to be among the tallest pacemen produced by India.

The problem is that with their height, they will always do well against Indian domestic batsmen and so domestic performances cannot be taken at face value because other countries will play them well.

 

[Richard]

Don't know what all the fuss concerning the 4th bowler is about.....

It should be a straight swap, McGain for McGill. Gain a lot, lose the fish.

I am pretty sure it's an unwritten Australian selection policy that they must select a Macca in our attack. If it ain't MacGill, it's McGrath or it's McDermott and even McIntyre. Hopefully McDonald would keep the Macca flame goin in the future. So, unfortunately for the other contenders - Hogg, Tait, Hilfenahus, Noffke - due to their vagaries of their last name and their inability to co-operate under the Macca umbrella they shall not be considered for McBoxing Day..

good work.

Agreed, one of irfan's best TBH.

 

[Richard]

Isn't Ishant Sharma supposed to be 6'4"? ,ie a little over 1.9m. If he matures (ie not on this tour) and stays fit, he could fix that.

And keeps his front-foot in the right place...

Honestly, I don't see Sharma doing anything of note against Australia, he's far, far too unrefined. The no-balls are just the worst of it.

 

[Richard]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22889037-5006372,00.html

Yea, can't disagree from an Aussie point of view. As an Indian supporter, I would be downright giddy if the surface was slow, low and offered turn. I would actually say that you shouldn't really prepare pitches that offer sideways movement, but more bounce and pace. Indian batsmen of late have been decent at the sideway movement stuff (see England tour), but they struggle a lot if someone is bowling 90+mph balls that go past their noses (see how much they struggled with Tremmlet with his height, even if he wasn't express). Obviously both sideways and up and down might be ideal, but Indian bowlers can utilize the swing pretty well these days....but we lack the really tall bowlers, or the really fast bowlers.

All well and good, but for one thing you can't manufacture a surface that has bounce, the soil has to be in the right condition.

For another, no decent batsman is going to struggle purely against a bit of bounce at 90mph. Tremlett caused problems because he moved the ball sideways and got bounce. It's not like the slightly shorter Sidebottom didn't cause problems either, he just didn't get the nicks that Tremlett sometimes got.

Bounce (unless it's extreme old-style-WACA bounce) is no use without sideways-movement. On the other hand, sideways-movement becomes more and more deadly the more bounce there is.

 

[Manee]

And keeps his front-foot in the right place...

And his backfoot pointing in the right direction.

 

[Nishant]

And keeps his front-foot in the right place...

Honestly, I don't see Sharma doing anything of note against Australia, he's far, far too unrefined. The no-balls are just the worst of it.

agreed....especially when the opposition are the aussies.

 

[pup11]

The nature of wickets in Australia atm is a big worry for me, they are flat and they don't seem to have that pace and bounce that one would usually expect off general Australian tracks, and the form in which the Indian middle order is a bit worrying for me.
Btw the way Yuvraj played today surely he should be in the XI for the boxing day test now but who would India drop to make way for Yuvraj, Dravid and Karthik are the only two Indian batsmen who have failed to make runs in the series against Pakistan but it would be too early too drop Dravid so i guess Dravid can then open for India in the Australian series hence vacating a slot for Yuvraj.