***Official*** New Zealand in Australia

[Fiery]

When netting...

Gotcha. Thought we were talking about time in the middle

 

[Richard]

How do you do that?

You know... it's arranged between the teams that batsman X will bat for X overs...

Not done often, obviously, but it'd be much the best way to get players acclimatised and get time in the middle. Then start playing real games.

 

[Fiery]

You know... it's arranged between the teams that batsman X will bat for X overs...

Not done often, obviously, but it'd be much the best way to get players acclimatised and get time in the middle. Then start playing real games.

When does that ever happen? Even WC warm-up games aren't that casual

 

[Flem274*]

When does that ever happen? Even WC warm-up games aren't that casual

Well if I ever want to get a decent score thats the game for me.

 

[Richard]

When does that ever happen? Even WC warm-up games aren't that casual

My point is it should happen. There's no point in keeping scores if you're going to play this 14-a-side crap. Much better to play games of that nature - is much more beneficial to everyone.

 

[Fiery]

My point is it should happen. There's no point in keeping scores if you're going to play this 14-a-side crap. Much better to play games of that nature - is much more beneficial to everyone.

What's the point of a side letting one batsman get that much benefit? I thought you were a bowler Rich

 

[Richard]

The idea of tour-games is to let the tourists get some time in the middle and to give home players the opportunity to test and reward themselves. The rewards are always going to be 0 for a meaningless 14-a-sider, so the test is all that matters. And the acclimatisation.

And if you want to help the tourists get acclimatised - which you should - a session of that nature is far better than a "game" between 16 and 12 players where absolutely nothing has any resonance.

 

[Flem274*]

The idea of tour-games is to let the tourists get some time in the middle and to give home players the opportunity to test and reward themselves. The rewards are always going to be 0 for a meaningless 14-a-sider, so the test is all that matters. And the acclimatisation.

And if you want to help the tourists get acclimatised - which you should - a session of that nature is far better than a "game" between 16 and 12 players where absolutely nothing has any resonance whatsoever..

You missed a word.

 

[Fiery]

The idea of tour-games is to let the tourists get some time in the middle and to give home players the opportunity to test and reward themselves. The rewards are always going to be 0 for a meaningless 14-a-sider, so the test is all that matters. And the acclimatisation.

And if you want to help the tourists get acclimatised - which you should - a session of that nature is far better than a "game" between 16 and 12 players where absolutely nothing has any resonance.

Never happens Rich. Guys in tour games, whether home or tourist, are just trying to impress. I think it's a dream you had

 

[Richard]

I've already said, haven't I? I know it never happens. What I said is that it should happen. And players can easily impress in a net-in-the-middle, same as they can impress in a net in the nets. Obviously, though, you need to do it in a proper game as well.

 

[Fiery]

I've already said, haven't I? I know it never happens.

ok. Where have you said that?

 

[Richard]

Here.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Oh, certainly - but that always applies. Easiest way to get time in the middle is to basically bat in the middle under net conditions - ie, keep going for as long as you want, regardless of how many times you're out.

Disagree, because there's not the pressure of making one mistake and finishing your innings. That has a huge part to play in the preparation for a game.

 

[Fiery]

Here.

technically not what you were claiming to have said

 

[Richard]

Disagree, because there's not the pressure of making one mistake and finishing your innings. That has a huge part to play in the preparation for a game.

Making one mistake rarely results in finishing your innings, really. I guess that's by-the-by, though - I'm not for a second advocating going into a Test without any proper games behind you. Merely saying that you'd be in the best shape to make the most of the proper games with a session of the type I advocate rather than this 14-a-side rubbish.

 

[Athlai]

McCullum.

Top stuff.

 

[NZTailender]

Annoying to fall so short. I don't know why Hopkins was played - is there any chance he'll play against Australia? Surely not. It would've paid to play Ross Taylor to try and get the boy in some form.

At least the bowlers had a decent run, even if they were pretty dire. Will say it again; these aren't our first choice bowlers so I don't think we'll do well in the series. But anyway...

 

[mikeW]

Dave Hussey- why oh why isn't he in contention for selection?

 

[Laurrz]

Dave Hussey- why oh why isn't he in contention for selection?

hear hear

 

[irfan]

Dave Hussey- why oh why isn't he in contention for selection?

Has to serve out his 15000 FC runs apprenticeship. I mean, you can't cut one brother short.