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What's the matter with Watson's batting?
- Thread starter Fiery
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Nah, the pro-Watson faction of this forum is quite strong, actually. We've just all grown tired of constantly having to defend him to the likes of you, Fiery and bond21. We're over it.
JBMAC
State Captain
So, if you are truly "over it", why such a spirited defence of such a non-entity as Watson?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Where's the spirited defence? Some people maintain the fight like Clapo but most don't bother anymore.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The main message he'd get is that certain toolish members have nfi what they're on about and are out of touch.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Haha pfffffft, non entity
Obviously someone didn't take notice if how well Watson was playing in ODI's during 06/07, or noticed that he in fact has a very good first class record with both the bat & ball.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Again, superb retort.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
I can't be bothered normally because people post such ridiculous things against him it annoys me for the rest of the day when I get into an argument about him.
Prince EWS
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Burgey
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He's had a string of injuries, is rusty, out of form and is probably batting in the wrong spot.
Apart from that, all's well.
Fiery
Banned
I'm sure he's thinking that himself
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
He is not injuried so things are better then normal.
Gillespie has a Test double hundred and has scored a century at both County and Shield levels. He is a better all-round prospect then the myth called Watson. And I'm not saying he should be there. We don't need an all-rounder. I'm listing better all-round options then quacker. We have Symonds at No.6 and that's good enough.
Difference between Bond and Watson is that Bond when fit is an outstanding Cricketer and a genuine match-winner. Bond is one of the rare class players the Kiwis have. It's a shame that he never got to play consistently. I would compare Bond to Bruce Reid not the myth.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
As Ive said before, he is a good cricketer but a sub-standard Australian Test cricketer. I have higher expectations of Australian cricketers than Watson.
He isnt a good enough bat to hold a top 6 place on ability and he certainly isnt a top 4 bowler. So every time he plays, the batting and the bowling is weakened as there could be a better batsman playing and he is taking overs away from a better bowler.
Im sure NZ and Eng would take him but he isnt Aus class.
Im sure everytime a guy like Watson or Symonds is selected the oppostion are happy. Not that they are poor cricketers but that they are a notch below what has been the standard in the recent past.
Shane Watson, the next Ronnie Irani
He isnt a good enough bat to hold a top 6 place on ability and he certainly isnt a top 4 bowler. So every time he plays, the batting and the bowling is weakened as there could be a better batsman playing and he is taking overs away from a better bowler.
Im sure NZ and Eng would take him but he isnt Aus class.
Im sure everytime a guy like Watson or Symonds is selected the oppostion are happy. Not that they are poor cricketers but that they are a notch below what has been the standard in the recent past.
Shane Watson, the next Ronnie Irani
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Gillespie proved himself as an outstanding performer from day one and every time he performed until he lost his way.
Watson has brought it on himself with his antics the day Jayasuria embarrassed him at the SCG, his carry ons when he gets a wicket and the whole ghosts thing. He hasn't earned his position like the other players have.
Symonds is only finally now getting a fair go at Test level and Jaques had to serve a decent apprenticeship. Not to mention that it took Hussey ages to make the side. MacGill has only ever been used a stop gap despite being the 3rd fastest bowler to 200 wickets.
Watson has had it too easy in terms of selection in Australian sides. There are better and more durable players out there deserving a go in the Test and ODI sides before Watson.
If he actually earned his position in the side and showed more mental toughness then he would be a hard luck story like Bruce Reid during his career and Jason Gillespie in his early days.
Symonds is a match-winner. His batting is only getting better, he can jag a wicket like Mark Waugh or Doug Walters and his fielding his breath taking. Australia needs an Andrew Symonds or Mark Waugh or Doug Walters in their side no matter who else is around at the time. Match winners are like diamonds. Junior's value to the Test side was much, much more than his batting average, 181 catches or 59 wickets. He could turn a game in one session with a quick cameo innings, a freak catch or a snare a wicket. He was one of Australia's most valuable players during his 128 Test career. Symonds is now displaying that ability. With Ponting, Hussey and Clarke in career peak form Symonds is the perfect No.6.
Flem274*
123/5
When Watson and Bond are injured they get the same treatment by complete tossers who would probably struggle to spell "injury."
And Bond is not a "rare" class player, we have many of those, usually injured. He's an all time NZ great and all time ODI great IMO. So he's more than just a class player.