Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah. Point taken. Fair enough.
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Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Think Craig is right: this game at Perth had only quickies: McDermott, Hughes, Reiffel, Whitney.
There's a couple games when Colin Miller was the only spinner, but as he actually bowled some spin, that probably doesn't count.
There's a couple games when Colin Miller was the only spinner, but as he actually bowled some spin, that probably doesn't count.
pasag
RTDAS
Yeah but has his name been mentioned by anyone in Indian cricket, in the media as a possible selection? Has his name been thrown around at all? Any signs that he's on selectors minds? That was my question.
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Chopra hasn't even been making the India A side. I can't see how he would be in line for selection, regardless of his domestic form. Pretty sure he is out of sight out of mind when it comes to national selection.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
He has, too. Scored 239* in the innings win against South Africa A in September.
A duck & 7 in the Irani Trophy though.
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Forgot about that series, but in my defence the 2nd match was a washout. Mind you if he also played in Zimbabwe then I'm complete idiot.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Nah, you're right that he didn't. Earned money playing for Lashings instead, I think.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Not really. Without the player's ability to challenge and get the calls right (each team gets two challenges, the third umpire only overturns the ruling on the field, whether out or not out, if there is indisputable evidence to the contrary), the umpires lose all authority as they look like total morons in the eyes of everyone. One wrong decision is one too many.
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sideshowtim
Banned
You're kidding yourself if you expect umpires to get every single one right though. Jayawardene said it best: "in the end, it's just a mistake by a human being". There's not much we can do to prevent umpiring mistakes.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Sure there is. Give players the ability to refer a limited number of decisions, give the umpires more technology to work with, bring in the third umpire for things like no balls. Otherwise, umpires will rightly be seen as muppets with no authority because they are incompetent and heavily decide the outcome of a Test match.
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Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Son Of Coco
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's not perfect though, even with a system where we refer to the 3rd umpire. They've been incapable of making a clear call on a number of catches where they had to decide whether the ball hit the ground first. It'll never be 100% correct.
Some Umpires have been bad over and over again, but despite that nothing really gets done about them...They have done little to improve themselves...besides some of them are losing vision and hearing...But its still of no use because they sit on the ICC umpiring gravey train and continue being bad...Thats the frustrating aspect of this whole thing ..there are quite a few good quality umpires in the next level who can step up but they are being blocked by these useless ones like Rudi...who sit out on the gravey train till someone has the courage to take a performance review and kick him out ...
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Nope, never will be. But that should most certainly be the goal - and anything that increases that percentage (without interrupting the flow of the game too much), I am definitely for. 90% of the wrong decisions would be removed, and that's certainly a plus. It would work both ways too. You think the LBW appeal was out? The bowler appeals to the third umpire, he takes a look at where the ball pitch and where it hit the batsman (he wouldn't look at the hawkeye prediction as that is not a 100%) and make a decision. But remember, since you only get two, you would only appeal if you're sure and even if you were sure, its not a guaranteed overturn because the evidence establishing your case must be indisputable to overturn the decision of the umpire on the field (whether it was given out or not out). It sounds good to me.
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
The alternative is that everyone in the world knows how crappy certain decisions are and flips off the umpire, including the players when they go back in and watch the reply.
Television technology has made the so called 'authority of the umpire' an outdated and irrelevant concept. The umpire has no authority if everyone can see how horrible he has been. Authority is maintained through trust and respect - and right now the umpires are losing on both counts.
Craig
World Traveller
Jason are you a qualified umpire or have done the test? If not, and if you can do a better job then your welcome to apply.Some Umpires have been bad over and over again, but despite that nothing really gets done about them...They have done little to improve themselves...besides some of them are losing vision and hearing...But its still of no use because they sit on the ICC umpiring gravey train and continue being bad...Thats the frustrating aspect of this whole thing ..there are quite a few good quality umpires in the next level who can step up but they are being blocked by these useless ones like Rudi...who sit out on the gravey train till someone has the courage to take a performance review and kick him out ...
Unfortunately I am qualified in another field and cannot leave it to start a new Career in umpiring...
But jokes asides, seriously , there are quite a few darn good Umpires in the next level (to the Elite Level) like the West Indian Lloyd Barker and South African umpire (name starting with H) whose name escapes me...and a few other English Umpires (trying to remember the Young English Umpire's name) who really need to be moved up and the bad ones kept on the sidelines while the others are given a chance to be at Elite level...
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