Gilchrist named Australia's greatest ever ODI player

[Son Of Coco]

Holy ****, you're like my twin.

That's impossible...for I am:

Knight Rider, a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist. Michael Knight, a young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the powerless, the helpless in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

 

[shortpitched713]

Maybe the Knight riding him is trying to get him to make short work of the box?

Thats terrible.

 

[Richard]

With no Whelan around, we need not worry about small matters like that.

EDIT: just spotted him reading another thread...

 

[Nate]

You can't argue with the decision. Personally believe it to be Bevan, but who is a better judge - Me or The Whole Of Anyone Who Has Played an ODI for Australia?

No-brainer, and hence, Gilchrist is the Best ODI Player ever for Australia.

 

[Richard]

who is a better judge - Me or The Whole Of Anyone Who Has Played an ODI for Australia?

Me, of course.

 

[Anil]

On record, sure. But I guess the reason I rate Gilchrist higher than his record deserves is because I can't remember how many times Gilchrist would give the Aussies a blitz start and make an impossible chase gettable, a moderate chase easy, etc. His quick 30 or 40 off 20 balls springboarded many big scores and he was a big-match player as evidence by his record in finals of any sort but all three WC finals.

a 30-40 wouldn't really make a seemingly impossible task gettable, would it? and his record over the years show that he hasn't been really consistent, australia has been able to afford a hit-or-miss odi opener because of all the good-to-great players who have surrounded him in the top and middle order throughout his career...i agree that when he gets going and scores big, the aussies almost always win and he has been great in the world cup finals, but all the players i mentioned(in addition to the ones you already rated above him) are exceptional big-match players and better pressure players than him in one dayers and they are/were also way more consistent....

 

[Perm]

It would IMO. Even among Australians, he's not the best.

AWTA.

 

[Ikki]

a 30-40 wouldn't really make a seemingly impossible task gettable, would it? and his record over the years show that he hasn't been really consistent, australia has been able to afford a hit-or-miss odi opener because of all the good-to-great players who have surrounded him in the top and middle order throughout his career...i agree that when he gets going and scores big, the aussies almost always win and he has been great in the world cup finals, but all the players i mentioned(in addition to the ones you already rated above him) are exceptional big-match players and better pressure players than him in one dayers and they are/were also way more consistent....

Neither would a 40-50. That's only his average. Still, in countless times, in important games, Gilchrist has swayed the game off his blade.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

Maybe the Knight riding him is trying to get him to make short work of the box?

 

[Top_Cat]

a 30-40 wouldn't really make a seemingly impossible task gettable, would it?

In and of itself, no. But that sort of thing seems to energise the Aussie team and even if he leaves with 30-odd and Australia are 1/55, they're sometimes that many off 5 overs. Decent start.

and his record over the years show that he hasn't been really consistent, australia has been able to afford a hit-or-miss odi opener because of all the good-to-great players who have surrounded him in the top and middle order throughout his career...

Consider the possibility that he only goes as hard as he does because he knows there's other hard-hitting batters to come? I'm sure if he pared back the aggression just a little, he'd be far more consistent but his job seems to be to go for broke and see what happens, statistics be damned. Certainly there have been plenty of knocks in both his Test and ODI career where he's pared back the risks and looked immovable too so he can do it but maybe going for everything is more along the lines of the team plan.

 

[Anil]

In and of itself, no. But that sort of thing seems to energise the Aussie team and even if he leaves with 30-odd and Australia are 1/55, they're sometimes that many off 5 overs. Decent start.

probably but when they are facing a huge total(say 280+), there is still a ton of work to be done and what i mean is it is the pontings, clarkes and the husseys who then make sure that the momentum is maintained...

Consider the possibility that he only goes as hard as he does because he knows there's other hard-hitting batters to come? I'm sure if he pared back the aggression just a little, he'd be far more consistent but his job seems to be to go for broke and see what happens, statistics be damned. Certainly there have been plenty of knocks in both his Test and ODI career where he's pared back the risks and looked immovable too so he can do it but maybe going for everything is more along the lines of the team plan.

that's true given that he has been a much more successful batsman in the longer version of the game compared to one dayers...i am not saying he doesn't have the ability, but his approach has certainly resulted in much lesser consistency than in tests and that's why i would rate him lower than those players i mentioned...i have always thought that gilchrist would have been much more useful as a hard-hitting batsman in the middle order in odis as well...it's not like the aussies haven't had other really good openers during his career...have never understood the rationale of maintaining him as an opener...

 

[Anil]

Neither would a 40-50. That's only his average. Still, in countless times, in important games, Gilchrist has swayed the game off his blade.

that was in response to t_c's comment...he mentioned 30-40, so i responded with the same...i have never said he hasn't played well in the wc finals but i don't agree that the finals are the only important game in any tournament...in the games leading to the finals, he hasn't really contributed with any sort of consistency and that's what i count against him...

 

[Richard]

Thought that might get your seal of disapproval.

 

[ttm]

This clearly shows that Greg Chappell at his peak was Australia's greatest ever one day batsman followed closely by Dean Jones.

http://www.lgiccrankings.com/odi/batting/all-time-ranking.php