Imran Khan vs Keith Miller

[Engle]

Cant argue the point....attack the poster

Brilliant

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Cant argue the point....attack the poster

Brilliant

You didn't make any points. The question was why don't I put Miller's career under the microscope, a question which I answered.

 

[Fusion]

There's no need to wind up Miller fans because they're not tedious twerps hailing their man as the ruler of the Universe.

With all due respect, the only one being a tedious...something... right now is you. I'm quite confident that we can take any one player and point out their mistakes over a course of a few games. You are completely ignoring the fact that Imran did top score in the WC final and was credited by everyone on that team (including his rival Javed) for inspiring Pakistan to win the Cup. It seems to me that you're merely arguing against Imran just to get under people's skins. I would hope people have better things to do in life than rile up strangers on the net.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

With all due respect, the only one being a tedious...something... right now is you. I'm quite confident that we can take any one player and point out their mistakes over a course of a few games. You are completely ignoring the fact that Imran did top score in the WC final and was credited by everyone on that team (including his rival Javed) for inspiring Pakistan to win the Cup. It seems to me that you're merely arguing against Imran just to get under people's skins. I would hope people have better things to do in life than rile up strangers on the net.

What else do you expect other than making outlandish statements from a person who once said on this forum "WI,AusmEng all have 10 better alltime bowlers than Imran Khan"?

 

[funnygirl]

With all due respect, the only one being a tedious...something... right now is you. I'm quite confident that we can take any one player and point out their mistakes over a course of a few games. You are completely ignoring the fact that Imran did top score in the WC final and was credited by everyone on that team (including his rival Javed) for inspiring Pakistan to win the Cup. It seems to me that you're merely arguing against Imran just to get under people's skins. I would hope people have better things to do in life than rile up strangers on the net.

Moreover ,i thoroughly believe that Imran got the world cup 1992 ,because he deserved it .Yes luck favoured him ,but luck favours the brave . Imran was the best player of the 1987 world cup both with the bat and ball and captained the side very well .But he was unlucky not to get it. He got an unfair decision in the semi final which proved very costly . So Imran got some ''deserved lucks '' in the next world cup .Cricket is an ultimate leveller .

 

[Anil]

Let's take a trip to Dr Wizzard's Laboratory.
He was the slowest batsman - beyond dispute
He was almost caught from a miss-hit on the leg-side when Pakistan had crawled to 35-2 off 17 overs - beyond dispute.

two quick wickets fell, england were bowling well and both imran and miandad found the going really tough, so they dug a trench, settled in and played shots once they were set and the score was healthier...and then inzi slogged in the end and took pakistan to a good score...so what's wrong with that scenario? imran's 70+ and miandad's 50+ were required by the circumstances and proved to be the backbone of the innings...

as for almost being caught off a mis hit, so what???!!! both of them struggled to middle the ball early in that innings..the important thing is that they hung on and played better towards the end of their knocks...

 

[Sanz]

two quick wickets fell, england were bowling well and both imran and miandad found the going really tough, so they dug a trench, settled in and played shots once they were set and the score was healthier...and then inzi slogged in the end and took pakistan to a good score...so what's wrong with that scenario? imran's 70+ and miandad's 50+ were required by the circumstances and proved to be the backbone of the innings...

as for almost being caught off a mis hit, so what???!!! both of them struggled to middle the ball early in that innings..the important thing is that they hung on and played better towards the end of their knocks...

Yeah I wouldn't fault Imran for his slow knock in the finals, I watched it live and thought it was a great innings esp after the situation theey were in. I thought he did pretty well as captain in the finals..both strategically and by personal performance. He built the innings with Javed and then sent in-form Inzi ahead of guys like Malik and Ijaz. Also he also sent Akram as the big hitter and guess what akram-Inzi's quick partnership made the huge difference in the game.

 

[nightprowler10]

Yeah I wouldn't fault Imran for his slow knock in the finals, I watched it live and thought it was a great innings esp after the situation theey were in. I thought he did pretty well as captain in the finals..both strategically and by personal performance. He built the innings with Javed and then sent in-form Inzi ahead of guys like Malik and Ijaz. Also he also sent Akram as the big hitter and guess what akram-Inzi's quick partnership made the huge difference in the game.

No no no no no no. Akram and Inzi saved Imran from utter and complete humiliation with their batting. [/sarcasm]

 

[neville cardus]

Engle,I completely agree with your 3 points above regarding Imran's captaincy & batting.

Really, Bhupinder, you don't need to tell us.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

two quick wickets fell, england were bowling well and both imran and miandad found the going really tough, so they dug a trench, settled in and played shots once they were set and the score was healthier...and then inzi slogged in the end and took pakistan to a good score...so what's wrong with that scenario? imran's 70+ and miandad's 50+ were required by the circumstances and proved to be the backbone of the innings...

as for almost being caught off a mis hit, so what???!!! both of them struggled to middle the ball early in that innings..the important thing is that they hung on and played better towards the end of their knocks...

If you'd read the original post you would know that the slow batting referred to was against New Zealand not England.
On the second paragraph I agree with "so what", as it didn't happen but your Imran loving partner in crime said my whole post was bul"£"* when in fact it was entirely factual.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

What else do you expect other than making outlandish statements from a person who once said on this forum "WI,AusmEng all have 10 better alltime bowlers than Imran Khan"?

You go on quoting that and I can go on qouting that "Garry Sobers is not an allrounder" and Dennis Lillee is a candidate for the Worst XI Test players between 1965-85."

 

[Lillian Thomson]

With all due respect, the only one being a tedious...something... right now is you. I'm quite confident that we can take any one player and point out their mistakes over a course of a few games. You are completely ignoring the fact that Imran did top score in the WC final and was credited by everyone on that team (including his rival Javed) for inspiring Pakistan to win the Cup. It seems to me that you're merely arguing against Imran just to get under people's skins. I would hope people have better things to do in life than rile up strangers on the net.

On the contrary, I was just putting the counter argument to the notion that Imran Khan was some sort of infalable genius.
When you see statements like "He brought WasimAkram (who was being saved for the later overs) back into the attack to halt a burgeoning p'ship between Lamb and Fairbrother, with devastating effect. Brilliant again !" it's fairly pitiful. There was a partnership developing and he brought back a strike bowler to try to split them up, big whoopee, hardly makes him the Duke of Wellington,
These people already know that many posters are more than fed up with continual droning on about Imran so if they continue and get a tad miffed by comments in return then that's the way the cookie bounces.

 

[Anil]

If you'd read the original post you would know that the slow batting referred to was against New Zealand not England.
On the second paragraph I agree with "so what", as it didn't happen but your Imran loving partner in crime said my whole post was bul"£"* when in fact it was entirely factual.

ok didn't realize that...agreed that that was a pretty slow effort and javed and inzi had to rectify the situation....that kind of innings in the middle overs was not a rarity in those days though since we rarely saw the kind of slogging in the middle overs that we take for granted today...and i admire imran as a cricketer, i don't love him and am certainly not in the bhupinder league of imran fans...

 

[BhupinderSingh]

You go on quoting that and I can go on qouting that "Garry Sobers is not an allrounder" and Dennis Lillee is a candidate for the Worst XI Test players between 1965-85."

I've already eaten those words of mine about Lillee several times but you haven't about Imran.If you say for once that you consider him in top 10 ,I'll never quote that again.I've always considered Sobers a batting allrounder & I still stick by my words.He's now in my top 5 because I've made the crieria flexible to include batting allrounders & not because it has been revealed onto me that he was a bowling genius.

 

[neville cardus]

I've already eaten those words of mine but you haven't about Imran.If you say for once that you consider him in top 10 ,I'll never quote that again.I've always considered Sobers a batting allrounder & I'm still stick to it.He's now in my top 10 because I've made the crieria flexible to include batting allrounder & not because It has been revealed onto me that he was a bowling genius.

That's fair enough.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I've already eaten those words of mine about Lillee several times but you haven't about Imran.If you say for once that you consider him in top 10 ,I'll never quote that again.I've always considered Sobers a batting allrounder & I still stick by my words.He's now in my top 5 because I've made the crieria flexible to include batting allrounders & not because it has been revealed onto me that he was a bowling genius.

I have explained previously that the post about England/Australia/West Indies having 10 bowlers better than Imran Khan was part of ongoing banter at that particular time with one particular poster who was also the subject of much banter regarding Glen McGrath as a dibbly dobbly medium pacer who relied solely on bowling just outside off stump. I fully retract the statement, although it wasn't meant to be taken seriously anyway.
I'm not going to say that I consider Imran one of the Top 10 bowlers of all time because I don't, but nor would I genuinely scoff at anyone who thinks he was.

 

[jammay123]

i may noy definitivly know who the best cricket player but i do know for sure that imran is best at evading the police.

 

[neville cardus]

Dumb and wholly irrelevant question: why is the title next to my avatar forever changing? I'm not complaining, of course, because I appear to be moving up in the world -- first an "U19 Debutant", then the "U19 Captain" and now (lo and behold) "State 12th Man" --, but my cat-like curiosity is excited: when'll I be a candidate for a Test spot?

 

[Athlai]

Dumb and wholly irrelevant question: why is the title next to my avatar forever changing? I'm not complaining, of course, because I appear to be moving up in the world -- first an "U19 Debutant", then the "U19 Captain" and now (lo and behold) "State 12th Man" --, but my cat-like curiosity is excited: when'll I be a candidate for a Test spot?

Follows your post count, more posts the more 'distinguished' your title.

 

[archie mac]

Dumb and wholly irrelevant question: why is the title next to my avatar forever changing? I'm not complaining, of course, because I appear to be moving up in the world -- first an "U19 Debutant", then the "U19 Captain" and now (lo and behold) "State 12th Man" --, but my cat-like curiosity is excited: when'll I be a candidate for a Test spot?

It depends on your post tally, but not sure of the progression, and if you join the 'Team' you stop moving