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Who do you think Should Captain Indian Test team?

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
So this is not about team, but about how Tendulkar should another opportunity to end this one blip (i.e. Captaincy). Isn't it ??
No, that is just a side thing to make the decision seem more honourable. If you read the rest, you would see that I find none of the other contenders suitable to the job.

PS: Thanks for reading my article:)
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
No, that is just a side thing to make the decision seem more honourable. If you read the rest, you would see that I find none of the other contenders suitable to the job.

PS: Thanks for reading my article:)
No problems. But it is nothing but usual ramblings of a overzealous Tendulkar fan. If someone reads the first para it will appear that Tendulkar is a Right Handed Sobers.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
No problems. But it is nothing but usual ramblings of a overzealous Tendulkar fan. If someone reads the first para it will appear that Tendulkar is a Right Handed Sobers.
I am not an overzealous Tendulkar fan - I am an overzealous Irfan Pathan fan:); I was one of the people calling for Sachin's ODI drop in 2005 (how foolish I was) and still think the Big Three should be all out of the ODI team by 2009.

Please argue with some of my reasonings rather than my motive - I wish to improve and be a more balanced writer.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
@Manee - Is there anything to argue when you say :-

"Captaincy was the one thing which Tendulkar could never master. Tendulkar is a superb opening batsman in ODIs; a record breaking middle order batsman in Tests; a fine slip catcher; good infielder and quick outfielder; an offie, leggie and medium pacer who can swing it both ways sharply, Tendulkar has done it all except be a successful captain for India."

The above is implying that Tendulkar has been able to master everything except captaincy is or that he is a fine slip catcher or quick outfielder, is he ? Only thing that Tendulkar has mastery in is - Batting. Period. He is an average slip catcher and ordinary outfielder and a handy part time bowler once in a while.
 
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Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
@Manee - Is there anything to argue when you say :-

"Captaincy was the one thing which Tendulkar could never master. Tendulkar is a superb opening batsman in ODIs; a record breaking middle order batsman in Tests; a fine slip catcher; good infielder and quick outfielder; an offie, leggie and medium pacer who can swing it both ways sharply, Tendulkar has done it all except be a successful captain for India."

The above is implying that Tendulkar has been able to master everything except captaincy is or that he is a fine slip catcher or quick outfielder, is he ? Only thing that Tendulkar has mastery in is - Batting. Period. He is an average slip catcher and ordinary outfielder and a handy part time bowler once in a while.
Perhaps I used the word master wrong. I was trying to give the impression that he had 'done it all' so to speak besides captaincy. Yes, I do think he is a good catcher and in his earlier days was a quick outfielder.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
No, that is just a side thing to make the decision seem more honourable. If you read the rest, you would see that I find none of the other contenders suitable to the job.
IMO Tendulkar didn't fail because he was overwhelmed by the whole experience of being a 'media hero' or anything. He failed because :-

a.He wanted his teammats to perform like he did which was close to impossible,
b. By doing so he set unreasonable expectation from hi team mates
c. He himself was not above parochial selection and preferred less talented players from Mumbai/Maharashtra
d. He was a poor man manager
e. He used to take things too personally and never had that 'Move On' attitude.


That said - I agree that he might be a good captain now but not for the reasons you have mentioned. IMO it will be mainly because having gone through lean patches and performing at mortal level he will have reasonable expectations from his team mates, he is much more relaxed and calm now as opposed to earlier when he would burst in front of the media etc. I still feel though that Dhoni is a better choice and making Tendulkar Captain is a step in the past.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Okay, what if it was NZ at home, and then say SL away?

What I'm trying to get at is, are the opposition really being taken into account here, or is it being used simple as an extra reason (the whole tough tour claims etc.) to keep Dhoni out?

I can obviously see why Dhoni should not be test captain in many people's eyes (and I'm almost in agreeance, if it wasn't for the current situation being how it is), but this whole tough tour thing thing being thrown around is obviously not really the true reasons. If its because he's not yet established in the test team then fair enough (though I reckon he already is, rightly or wrongly, considering how long he's been a fixture in it for now), but this 'tough tour' business is rubbish IMO.
Don't think so at all TBH - last thing anyone, be it captain or player, needs is two tough series to start your career, and in India they don't come much bigger than Pakistan (whether home or away) and Australia away.

I'm always in favour of stopgap solutions in such times. So often it ends-up reflecting badly on a player if he gets some early stuff before he's really ready for it.
 

R_D

International Debutant
When the team was selected for Australian tour, this is what they said about Indian batting line up :-

".....The one considerable silver lining is that the batting is extremely strong. Never has an Indian batting line up in cricket history seen its top five batsmen in the order - Ramesh, Gandhi, Dravid, Tendulkar and Ganguly - all have a Test career average of 50 plus. The reserve batting -- Ajay Jadeja, Vijay Bharadwaj and VVS Laxman - just about passes muster..... "

So I dont see why it was such a bad selection, MSK Prasad was very much a Tendulkar choice, so were Kanitkar, Agarkar and Vijay Bhardwaj.

In the home series vs. SA he had Jaffer, VVS, Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Jadeja, Azhar, Mongia, Kumble, Srinath, Agarkar, (Murali) Kartik, Chopra, Kaif. He lost 2-0.
I don't who said that but needs to get his head checked out.
Ramesh, Gandhi were only good in India. Fact that Laxman had to open the innings showed how good these guys were. They had no idea how to play on Australian bouncy pitches. Dravid was clueless on the whole tour as well, can't remember too many good innings from Gagnuly either. Sachin played couple of good innings. Laxman did the one man job as opener in Sydney.
I rather not say anything about the bowling, we all remember how good Kumble was away from home pre- 2000 era. The rest were pile of crap... lol.. India managed to win 1 games in the whole tour i think.. beat Pakistan in one of the ODI matches.
Even managed to lose a match they should've won against Pakistan.
Can't forget the MCG ODI where the crowd started throwing crap on the ground either.. Ganguly scored a 100 and Dravid scored a save facing 50.
 

pup11

International Coach
Well i won't say i am a big Dhoni fan but one thing is for sure that when he was given the responsibility to lead the Odi side then he should have also be given the responsibility to lead the test side, Sachin isn't going to be around for a long time and constant change of leadership is something that should be avoided.
 

sunilreddy

Banned
Kaif? He is nowhere near the team right now, in any format.

That is completely my opinion. His test record is not that worst, he played important knocks against Australia and WI but unfortunately dropped from the team based on ODI performance and the other thing is he lead our junior teams to many victories on home and foreign soils. He can replace Dravid at No 3 in the future.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
It is your opinion, but its a silly one.

I love Kaif, always been a fan. But FFS, you can't name someone captain who isn't even in the squads for either form of cricket.

Its stupid.

Kaif was all set for Indian captaincy until there was a mixture of him being screwed by selectors, and his performances dropping off. In 2004/05 I was predicting him to be the next captain of India after Ganguly (and obviously after the Ganguly drama, after Dravid), but unfortunately it was not to be.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
They should give it to Dhoni according to me. I wouldn't mind Tendulkar either though because I think he would do a good job.
 

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