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Who's the 2nd greatest test batsman of alltime?

Who's the 2nd greatest Test batsman of alltime?


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the_last_rites

Cricket Spectator
*Shakes Head*

People have a different idea of what is good to watch, just like they have a different idea of what food tastes nice, it's a pretty simple idea. I'm not sure why you have such trouble understanding it.
Darren Ganga? rofl. Now I am not laughing at your tastes but just seeing Darren Ganga and IVAR being mentioned in the same line together just gives me the Lmao-tse tungs. Once again I am not scoffing at you, just at what was written there.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Darren Ganga? rofl. Now I am not laughing at your tastes but just seeing Darren Ganga and IVAR being mentioned in the same line together just gives me the Lmao-tse tungs. Once again I am not scoffing at you, just at what was written there.
I'll repeat, people have different perspectives on things, Prince for one, is a person who likes watching people with good technique (I'm sure he has stated before that he could watch Ganga/Kallis defend all day), and even though I don't really agree with him, I can understand where he comes from.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
If you really believe that Ganga is more watchable than Sir Viv Richards then what can I say. Perhaps there is something wrong with the definition of 'Watchable'.
Why? People aren't allowed to like certain styles of batting?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
why exactly is his case dubious to you? He's been hailed as the finest left hand batsman to play the game by all and sundry. He's been named as SA's player of the century(over Richards mind you, the guy you think has more cred than Pollock according to you Richie).
Irfan Pathan was voted World young player of the year too. In any case, even if he is South Africa's best batsman ever (which he might be) it just says that there currently don't happen to be any South African batsmen right in the very top tree.
He's had the Don pay him numerous compliments(Dont think Don is someone who gives off compliments like that. There was this innings that he played in the 60s down under which made the Don tell him something along the lines of 'Give me a call the next time you decide to play an innings like that').
This is the Don Bradman who picked Don Tallon in an all-time XI and said Stan McCabe could bat better than him?
His technique was supposed to be better than even David freakin Gowers.
David Gower is hardly a pillar of technical excellence.
The stats speak for themselves as you can imagine.
Well... he averaged 61 for South Africa. That's not the only stat of any importance.
The only thing that could have possibly have worked against his case was that he didnt pick up English County cricket like Richards did, so less number of people were exposed to him.
Richards "only" averaged 50 for Hampshire though. This works against him, really. His average for Natal (60) and - briefly - South Australia (110) were far better.
But nonetheless Richard, what is it that you know that makes you think the claims of people like Barry Richards and others are spurious?
More than anything it's the fact that they had short Test careers, and merely excelled - not dazzled out of sight - in domestic cricket. If these players were to be considered so highly, for me, they'd have to be really tearing it up in domestic cricket. Otherwise, they can only be considered lost careers.
Just remember you're downplaying the achievement of the one South African player who it is claimed then when out in the middle batting for Transvaal, consequently caused the productivity of offices all around SA to go down :D .
Isn't it a bit odd, then, that he "only" averaged 55 for Transvaal?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Why? People aren't allowed to like certain styles of batting?
Ofcourse, that's why I said there must be something wrong with (my) definition of the word 'watchable'.

PS :- I have intention of debating with you how much more enjoyable Ganga's batting is than Sir Viv's.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Post Reported.
Good luck with that.
Given Sanz has already said how much he dislikes being cursed at in abbreviated form that "FFS" post shows a complete disregard for him as a poster.

Sure I think Sanz is being sensitive but despite that sensitivity Richards post was nothing but **** stirring.

BTW, didnt think a thread could go down hill as quickly as the Lillee one but this one seems to prove me wrong.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Given Sanz has already said how much he dislikes being cursed at in abbreviated form that "FFS" post shows a complete disregard for him as a poster.

Sure I think Sanz is being sensitive but despite that sensitivity Richards post was nothing but **** stirring.
It was principally a case of reacting as I'd normally react and not allowing someone's silly (and deliberate, in order to find something to make a fuss about) over-sensitivity to impact upon myself.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
It was principally a case of reacting as I'd normally react and not allowing someone's silly over-sensitivity (and deliberate, in order to find something to make a fuss about) to impact upon myself.
So basically you deciding to do what someone has asked you not to do just because you dont value their opinion or respect their wishes.

Mate, I think you got off lightly with your previous comments towards Sanz and you dont seem to have learnt your lesson
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
It was principally a case of reacting as I'd normally react and not allowing someone's silly over-sensitivity (and deliberate, in order to find something to make a fuss about) to impact upon myself.
"I think it quite possible that I could have dispersed the crowd without firing but they would have come back again and laughed, and I would have made, what I consider, a fool of myself." — General Dyer
 
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