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***Official*** England in Sri Lanka

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
I don't disagree because of being able to see if the bails were removed or not. I disagree due to I don't think the batsman should be disadvantaged in that way be the removal of the bails being deliberate or not.
How is he disadvantaged? Any rule change would have to specify that the stumps must be visibly moved.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Has Mahela changed as an ODI batsman? Used to be very ordinary, usually only scored against poor attacks. As of late he's been pretty good though, especially after that wonderful knock during the World Cup.
I feel he's always been undervalued over here. I remember predicting he'd have a gun WC and got scoffed at
. Similar story with Younis Khan in ODIs.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Gone, Swann with the wicket. Nice keeping from Mustard it seems.

Matt, I hope you aren't suggesting Monty is a better spinner than Swann in ODI cricket.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
How is he disadvantaged? Any rule change would have to specify that the stumps must be visibly moved.
The idea is for the bails to be removed by the ball, be it a direct hit or with a player holding the ball. If the bails have been removed, be it deliberate or not without the use of the ball than IMO the batsman is disadvantaged if they are allowed to be dismissed without the bails being on the stumps.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I feel he's always been undervalued over here. I remember predicting he'd have a gun WC and got scoffed at
. Similar story with Younis Khan in ODIs.
Nah, Younis Khan is terrible in ODIs. Just dissect his record a bit and you'll realise how poor he is, especially when compared to the success he has had in ODI cricket.

TBH I never really rated Jayawardene as an ODI bat, always seemed to look good at the crease but rarely got the scores against good teams. I remember saying he was rubbish, right before he played that knock in the World Cup. Asking for a Greigy really :p
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Agree completely with Ritchie TBH, too many people are too quick to build-up superb Test players such as Younis and Mahela in ODIs despite them being actually wholly average.

Mahela was average for most of his ODI career - like Hayden - but has actually seemed to take his game to another level in recent times.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
SL have an outside chance of getting 300 and England are doing OK, so why is this really dull and boring to watch?
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Every time we look like we are getting on top we lose a bloody wicket. Really need a big innings here from someone to get more then a decent total.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Nah, Younis Khan is terrible in ODIs. Just dissect his record a bit and you'll realise how poor he is, especially when compared to the success he has had in ODI cricket.

TBH I never really rated Jayawardene as an ODI bat, always seemed to look good at the crease but rarely got the scores against good teams. I remember saying he was rubbish, right before he played that knock in the World Cup. Asking for a Greigy really :p
Agree completely with Ritchie TBH, too many people are too quick to build-up superb Test players such as Younis and Mahela in ODIs despite them being actually wholly average.

Mahela was average for most of his ODI career - like Hayden - but has actually seemed to take his game to another level in recent times.
Khan is not terrible and I don't care for dissecting records much, he may not be the best player in the world but that doesn't make him terrible or any other of the extreme adjectives that get thrown around here. Both players might not be as good in the shorter format or great players but they are still class and very, very far from terrible however you determine the stats.
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
SL have an outside chance of getting 300 and England are doing OK, so why is this really dull and boring to watch?
It can only be so if you find ODIs so as a rule. Don't get much more interesting ODI cricket than this IMO, just perhaps a little surprising that the identity of the bowlers is such.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
SL have an outside chance of getting 300 and England are doing OK, so why is this really dull and boring to watch?
Its not Twenty20...

No crowd makes the game seem boring really. Need atmosphere in these limited over matches.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Khan is not terrible and I don't care for dissecting records much, he may not be the best player in the world but that doesn't make him terrible or any other of the extreme adjectives that get thrown around here.
I know you don't care much for dissecting records. I'll do it for you - after about 100 ODIs, Younis Khan averages about 26. This is not merely not-the-best-in-The-World, it's terrible. No other adjective.

No-one deserves to play that many ODIs while doing so abysmally.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
It can only be so if you find ODIs so as a rule. Don't get much more interesting ODI cricket than this IMO, just perhaps a little surprising that the identity of the bowlers is such.
Really? How is it interesting? Nothing is happening. Its just one big drift
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Its not Twenty20...

No crowd makes the game seem boring really. Need atmosphere in these limited over matches.
Wonder why there's such a small crowd...

Haha, Collingwood wided for bowling a Bouncer - Beevs will be spitting at that presumably.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Really? How is it interesting? Nothing is happening. Its just one big drift
That's what you'd perceive it as if you don't like this sort of thing. What is to you a "big drift" is to me interesting cat-and-mouse.

Of course, I reckon a better attack than this would be keeping a much slower scoring-rate on a surface like this.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
So it is the off-season, I did think "I've never seen cricket in SL in October before".

Yeah, stupid schedule.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Khan is not terrible and I don't care for dissecting records much, he may not be the best player in the world but that doesn't make him terrible or any other of the extreme adjectives that get thrown around here. Both players might not be as good in the shorter format or great players but they are still class and very, very far from terrible however you determine the stats.
He's terrible in comparison to how he seems to be rated, if that makes sense. They are class players, no doubt, otherwise they wouldn't be playing at Test or ODI level. But compared to their team mates and opposition players, they aren't really that good, and Younis Khan is terrible.
 

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