Who was the better bowler ?

[Richard]

There could be any number of reasons; he may simply have happened to bowl better in Pakistan than he did at certain times elsewhere. He may have found a certain ball to be more conducive to either conventional or reverse-swing, or certain outfields.

I disagree that Pakistan "typical" pitches offer any more to seamers than Indian ones. Possibly (and only possibly) there might have been a few decent green ones prepared in the knowledge that Imran was in the team, but that would be even more so if you knew you had Wasim and Waqar.

And even if Umpires don't give lbws, there is still something called "bowled" y'know.

 

[funnygirl]

There could be any number of reasons; he may simply have happened to bowl better in Pakistan than he did at certain times elsewhere. He may have found a certain ball to be more conducive to either conventional or reverse-swing, or certain outfields.

I disagree that Pakistan "typical" pitches offer any more to seamers than Indian ones. Possibly (and only possibly) there might have been a few decent green ones prepared in the knowledge that Imran was in the team, but that would be even more so if you knew you had Wasim and Waqar.

And even if Umpires don't give lbws, there is still something called "bowled" y'know.

.I got every thing .
Thats why great people here in this forum keep on telling that don't argue with Richard

 

[Fusion]

Okay .Then Wasim was better than Imran on the dead Indian tracks .Yes the tracks are even dead and no home umpires .Moreover Wasim never played in India at his prime.

Minuscule difference in their records there wasn't it? Wasim averages .33 better than Imran and has an economy that's better by .10. Imran has the slightly better strike rate. If you are using those differences to prove your point, I'm afraid that's clutching at straws.

 

[Sanz]

Being possessed of more varied skill does not neccessarily = having a more successful career - not that I really think Wasim did at all.

You are talking as if Wasim was a failure @ International level. Wasim had an equally (if not more) successful career as a bowler, took more wickets, better away records.

 

[Sanz]

For a Pakistani bowler, I'd say home performances are more notable than away, as Pakistani pitches have historically tended to offer the least to bowlers out of any Test-playing team.

Imran also had the help of highly biased home umpiring, there is a huge different in his home and away performance, So I will take his far superior home record with a pinch of salt, Wasim's record otoh is a lot closer.

 

[Sanz]

Having just looked at the poll results (fortunately SJS was thoughtful enough to make it public) BS is not far off the mark. Most of the Wasim votes have come from people who are highly unlikely to remember either, and if either then Wasim.

Including, I can be pretty certain, some who've just voted for the sake of it rather than because they actually have much of an opinion.

Let's not be judgemental here, okay and just respect the opinions of those who have voted so far without making assumptions and showing elitist attitude.

If this is how we are going to treat polls then I think polls should not be allowed on this forum.

 

[Matt79]

Let's not be judgemental here, okay and just respect the opinions of those who have voted so far without making assumptions and showing elitist attitude.

If this is how we are going to treat polls then I think polls should not be allowed on this forum.

AWTA

 

[Sanz]

Minuscule difference in their records there wasn't it? Wasim averages .33 better than Imran and has an economy that's better by .10. Imran has the slightly better strike rate. If you are using those differences to prove your point, I'm afraid that's clutching at straws.

It may very well be true, but please remember that Wasim never got to tour India at his peak.

 

[funnygirl]

Let's not be judgemental here, okay and just respect the opinions of those who have voted so far without making assumptions and showing elitist attitude.

If this is how we are going to treat polls then I think polls should not be allowed on this forum.

I support that point .None of us can here claim abt being unbiased .Each and evry one is biased ,quite natural .This is the question of Imran vs Wasim ,so people would bring statistics and claim Imran is superior .

Agreed .

But the same people can't accept Glenn Mcgrath better than Imran Which is obvious statistically .Then comes the theory ''statistics are not every thing'',Thats where the hypocrisy of such discussion lies .

 

[Matt79]

Nobody is going to give your views any respect until you give others the respect of acknowledging they might disagree with you without being biased or hypocrites.

 

[funnygirl]

Abt an early incident .I apologised for that mistake .

BTW nothing wrong in being biased ,if we keep consisitency in that.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Abt an early incident .I apologised for that mistake .

BTW nothing wrong in being biased ,if we keep consisitency in that.

Yes,who on earth can even think of beating your record of being consistently biased for more than 5 years on this forum?

 

[neville cardus]

Imran was the maker; Wasim was the master. The latter gets my vote.

 

[Richard]

Yes,who on earth can think of beating your record of being consistently biased for more than 5 years on this forum?

You sense a wahindiawah\nehrafan again?

 

[Richard]

Let's not be judgemental here, okay and just respect the opinions of those who have voted so far without making assumptions and showing elitist attitude.

If this is how we are going to treat polls then I think polls should not be allowed on this forum.

It's not making assumptions: I know how old most people are on this forum.

It's not being elitist to say that people of a certain age won't have seen certain things, it's just simple fact. And I also know most people pretty well, and know why they'd vote certain ways.

 

[Richard]

You are talking as if Wasim was a failure @ International level. Wasim had an equally (if not more) successful career as a bowler, took more wickets, better away records.

And you are talking as if Imran was a failure @ international level. Imran had a more successful career as a bowler, took wickets at a better average, had a better home record.

 

[Sanz]

And you are talking as if Imran was a failure @ international level. Imran had a more successful career as a bowler, took wickets at a better average, had a better home record.

And better home record doesn't mean much when Pakistan had one of the most biased umpiring in the world. It is ridiculous to suggest that Imran had more successful career as a bowler than Akram when the later has taken 400 more International wickets and if you are talking only test match than 50more wickets.

If not more, Akram had equally succeesful career than Imran as a bowler.

 

[Sanz]

It's not making assumptions: I know how old most people are on this forum.

It's not being elitist to say that people of a certain age won't have seen certain things, it's just simple fact. And I also know most people pretty well, and know why they'd vote certain ways.

So what is your cut off age ? Are you above that age yourself ?

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Imran was the maker; Wasim was the master. The latter gets my vote.

Wasim Akram was himself a disciple of Imran Khan,if there was no Imran then there would've been no Wasim as well.And I disagree with those who've said that Wasim had more variety.Imran Khan was a master of bowling reverse swing,reverse-swinging & conventional swinging yorkers,bouncers & out-swingers where as Wasim was a master of bowling reverse swingers only but had good yorkers & bouncers but not as good as that of Imran or Waqar

 

[BhupinderSingh]

So what is your cut off age ? Are you above that age yourself ?

He's 22,elder than what most people who voted for Wasim are.