Thats not what this format will ensure. Because The best batsmen you are talking off are not using all their considerable skills in this format.
I feel they are using a lot more skills than you are giving credit too, if they weren't then any Joe or Jim would be up at the top. You could say the same of ODI's, not all the skills are used in that game that are in test cricket.
Tell me how many wickets do you remember that fell to great bowling.
Odd that the unforced errors have came off quality bowlers isn't it.
Of course they will. If you are going to slog and miss the ball still has to be pitched on the stumps for you to be bowled.
Of course they will. If you are going to slog and miss the ball still has to be pitched on the stumps for you to be bowled.
I think you are not at all on the same page as me.
I am notsaying that the better bowlers or the better batsmen will nottake wickets or score runs respectively. Read a second and third time if required please.
What I am saying is that the standards 'required' for this format will be lower for obvious reasons and over time the overall standards will decline.
Of course in any format the better players will perform better. But what dfines better will change.
When wickets stopped being left uncovered, players who had the technique to play on stickies vanished. Now have stickies and the Tendulkars and Laras will scream 'blue murder' . But have stickies as a permanent feature and players who are the best of the best will learn to play on them.
Skills evolve with need butthey also disappear, over time, as the need disappears.
I rest my case. Since I have absolutely nothing more to add and repeating oneself is very tiresome
Well said mate.
Now there’s a lie, the female dancers have looked fantastic, stars of tournament!
It's not, IMO. But if you think they are the best things of the tournament about cricket, then I guess it says a lot about the game.
Look I watched Eng/SA game and it seemed that the fielders are in hurry to make something happen and because of that they are dropping lollys, doing stupid mistakes in the field. Do you know how many catches have been dropped in this tournament so far ?
Thankfully I don’t but I’ve seen a fair few put down, even by great fielders such as AB- which you could either contribute to the pressure situations which 20/20 create and how it intensifies the game so much that you need to be on your metal all the time (no time to slack). Or AB just couldn’t pick the ball up under the Newlands lights.
I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding the argument or just trying to be difficult. Nobody is saying that every good player is going to be hopeless at 20/20 and every average player brilliant. Obviously the format does take skill, and players who adapt well will perform, and that's usually going to be good players, even though it does narrow the gap in class in certain cases. The issue, for those who don't get much out of 20/20, is what exactly they are succeeding at, and what skills are being marginalised in the process. Someone like Bracken does well in 20/20 because he's got good variations and is tough to score off, much like in ODI cricket, but unlike in ODI cricket he bowls to a field with no slips and would rather bowl a maiden than take a wicket. Guys like Ntini or Asif who are quality aggressive fast bowlers are relegated to alsorans in 20/20 because their skillset is of minimal importance in comparison to, say, Shahid Afridi's. That's the issue, and that's the problem with the lack of "aggressive bowling" - not that every bowler capable of taking wickets is simply hopeless in the shorter format.
Hear hear. I agree mate. Predicting the 'death' of something seems to be very fashionable. In the case of Test cricket though, it offers something entirely different to Twenty20 - and that is why it won't be overrun by it. It is a totally different animal. For mine, Twenty20 is like Sevens Rugby where so many tries are scored (or big shots are played) that you just end up going: 'ho hum another boundary'. Boundaries and big shots should be unique, not monotonous to the point of being meaningless.
Mate, I take your point. But I wasn't really commenting on who wins or whether the cream rises to the top. Rather, just the monotony of both forms of those two games.
Thanks for the effort to make a 'breakthrough' because I had given up.
Aren't you [TT Boy] the guy who posted a half naked picture of himself in the "What Do You Look Like" thread?
Asif has seen success in this form of the game (Ntini on the other hand has not, though his ODI form has also been not so great), what I'm saying is that what would be so bad about new bowlers and batsman becoming highly skilled at the qualities you stated? Your quite right in suggesting that some types of players may not adapt at all, but those that do have used their abilities to excell in this game.
Take nothing personal out of my disagreements, I mean nothing bad by them)