***Official*** India in England

[aussie]

Expect England to make a very strong batting effort to save the test, but in the end i reckon India will come out victorious in the end. Given the fact that being bowled out for 198 will ultimately cost England the test i fear.

Also must say i was VERY impressive by the way Tremlett bowled. The fast bowling stocks in England is in a really healthy position. The mind is already looking foward for the 2009 Ashes..

 

[adharcric]

India still have the edge as far as umpiring decisions go - particularly when you look at who they went against and at what stage of the game they occurred, that's before we get into the gazillion plays and misses and uncontrolled shots India got away with - which was undoubtedly incredibly lucky.

Plays and misses and uncontrolled shots can not really be considered bad luck in the same way - that is making your own luck. The only luck that can be used as an excuse is a poor umpiring display and a severely one-sided display at that. Apart from that, it's merely tough luck and that kind of luck is very much a part of cricket.

Anderson and Sidebottom bowled quite well with the new ball but the Indian seamers got plenty of plays and misses from the English top-order as well.

 

[Richard]

Is this failing? Making a 57 off 134 balls after India were 38/4 in the second inning of the test match to save the test and the series? You just looked at the series averages and concluded that he failed. How very convenient. And Tendulkar was 16 when he was playing that test.

I never said he did not one thing of note at 16, just that he shouldn't have been playing as most of his career until that England tour in 1990 wasn't very notable.

Series and cumulative-series averages say more than one single game does.

 

[adharcric]

Once again, I slept through the post-tea session. Quite disappointed in Sreesanth, at least from what I have read. That said, I don't understand why people are getting on his case for the "leg spin in the nets" comment. None of you actually know whether he was only bowling leg spin or just having a try for fun and the commentators decided to bring that up, so don't draw conclusions. He needs a guiding hand and I am not sure of Venkatesh Prasad and the role he plays in this side right now. Bribe Allan Donald.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Once again, I slept through the post-tea session. Quite disappointed in Sreesanth, at least from what I have read. That said, I don't understand why people are getting on his case for the "leg spin in the nets" comment. None of you actually know whether he was only bowling leg spin or just having a try for fun and the commentators decided to bring that up, so don't draw conclusions. He needs a guiding hand and I am not sure of Venkatesh Prasad and the role he plays in this side right now. Bribe Allan Donald.

Haha I don't think so mate.

 

[Richard]

I do, TBH. Can see Donald going the same way Cooley did.

And people making the same OTT fuss they did then, too.

 

[open365]

Once again, I slept through the post-tea session. Quite disappointed in Sreesanth, at least from what I have read. That said, I don't understand why people are getting on his case for the "leg spin in the nets" comment. None of you actually know whether he was only bowling leg spin or just having a try for fun and the commentators decided to bring that up, so don't draw conclusions. He needs a guiding hand and I am not sure of Venkatesh Prasad and the role he plays in this side right now. Bribe Allan Donald.

What does it matter if he was doing it for fun or not? He still did not prepare properly and got found out, did he even measure out a run up at the start of his spell? From the way he was bowling he didn't look like he had

 

[adharcric]

What does it matter if he was doing it for fun or not? He still did not prepare properly and got found out, did he even measure out a run up at the start of his spell? From the way he was bowling he didn't look like he had

That's fine. Don't use that leg-spin comment as evidence though.

 

[adharcric]

Haha I don't think so mate.

BCCI can offer him a better contract. Come on Donald, you know you want to.

 

[aussie]

I do, TBH. Can see Donald going the same way Cooley did.

And people making the same OTT fuss they did then, too.

Yep especially if down the line in his owen way improves England's pace attack & South Africa suddenly say they want him.

 

[silentstriker]

That's fine. Don't use that leg-spin comment as evidence though.

Nasser Hussain, who watched the entire Indian bowler's net session (or most of it) says he was the only one of the bowlers who was just milling around and not working on his bowling. Unless he was mistaken, which I have no reason to believe that he was, I think it is fair criticism.

Drop his ass IMO.

 

[Turbinator]

Hmm disappointed to here this about Sreesanth, I always thought he was a very hard worker itbt, someone who gives it there all.

But I am surprised none of the senior members like Dravid had a chat with him about this.

 

[Richard]

How do we know they didn't?

The sensible thing would have been for Dravid, Venkatesh Prasad or someone to have a quiet word with him - give him a roasting if they feel it neccessary - without anyone else, ideally even the rest of the team, knowing.

The "praise in public, bollock in private" method is rarely anything other than the best way to go, even if it fails to sate the public's desire for blood and controversy and stuff to make a big fuss about.

 

[Richard]

Drop his ass IMO.

Would be happy to face Ramesh Powar instead, especially if we still have a chance of victory going into the final Test.

 

[adharcric]

Nasser Hussain, who watched the entire Indian bowler's net session (or most of it) says he was the only one of the bowlers who was just milling around and not working on his bowling. Unless he was mistaken, which I have no reason to believe that he was, I think it is fair criticism.

Drop his ass IMO.

Dravid probably knows more about the situation than either Nasser Hussain or you do - leave it to him. Expecting Sreesanth to learn his lesson and turn it on tomorrow.

 

[silentstriker]

Dravid probably knows more about the situation than either Nasser Hussain or you do - leave it to him. Expecting Sreesanth to learn his lesson and turn it on tomorrow.

Irrellevent as far as I am concerned. Doing this for the second time is unacceptable.

 

[Richard]

What did you think on the 10th occasion Brian Lara was bowled around his pads?

 

[silentstriker]

What did you think on the 10th occasion Brian Lara was bowled around his pads?

How is not being able to make it to your crease comparable? It would be similar if Brian Lara , in every other series, randomly couldn't get to his crease.

 

[Sanz]

Cricinfo should write a critical post on Kapil, if they do want to write a critical post on some one, because of taking a pot shot, not because he is right or wrong, particularly when he opposed Lele taking a pot shot at the Indian team. We knew India team was dire when Kapil was coach but still Kapil objected to Lele saying India will lose 3-0 in Australia. Kapil Dev has also criticised people in the past for beng critical of team selections saying media and every one else should encourage the players once the team has been selected. I am never in favor of former players taking pot shots at the team or individual players in the middle of the tour. That means they are just screaming for attention. Saying stuff like this in the middle of a tour, regardless of whether it is true or not, makes no sense. I would have maintained the same view had he said some thing about Ganguly, Laxman or any one else in the middle of the tour. It is not because I am a Tendulkar fan really. I have already said why I felt cricinfo was dire on this occasion.

Whether or not Cricinfo should write a critical post on Kapil is not the issue here. Kapil has faced enough criticism in his career as a cricketer, captain and as a coach. Kapil doesn't need to criticise Tendulkar to get attention. He is the Chairman of NCA, a major player in ICL and has achieved a lot more than Tendulkar and likes of him will ever do in their life as a cricketer. So Please dont pull the attention Crap.

He didn't go and shoot his mouth off on his own, he was asked by mediamen and he gave his honest opinion. Why should everyone in the world praise tendulkar when he has been batting like Crap for last 4 years. Kapil is not alone if he feels that way, there are many who feel Tendulkar has not won us enough matches.

Hey If I am going to pick top 5 test batsman from India, Tendulkar wouldn't be one of them for sure despite making 11000 runs and 35 100s.

And its not like Media is not taking potshot at Kapil for saying what he said about Tendulkar. One leading newspaper (Hindu) had this to say about Kapil :-

"....Kapil Dev, who recently took a swipe at Tendulkar on television, captured 33 wickets in his last 16 Tests with a best haul of three for 35. The Mumbai maestro’s sequence of runs in his own last 16 Tests might well compare favourably...."

What Hindu doesn't tell is Kapil's avg. for those 16 games was still better than his career avg. and hence they are making an incorrect claim.

 

[silentstriker]

He has got one bowler who is completely out of it - Sreesanth. I watched him practice this morning, he bowled legspin all the time, and that is nonsense.

That was David Lloyd.