All Time Country ODI Teams ?

[Richard]

I'd have him fairly comfortably in a 1990-2007 second team, myself. Probably as the lead seamer.

 

[NUFAN]

I'd have him fairly comfortably in a 1990-2007 second team, myself. Probably as the lead seamer.

Grrr. but the thread title is all time team, so the players before 1990 must be included.

McGrath
Lee
Fleming
McDermott
Bracken
Lillee

Are clearly all ahead - I would then pick Reiffel, O'Donnell, chuck in Warney and a bowler like Peter Taylor and he's missed out on the second team easily.

 

[Richard]

But I don't see the point in all-time ODI sides, 'cos it blurs two totally different things.

So I was just talking about 1990-2007.

 

[Prince EWS]

But I don't see the point in all-time ODI sides, 'cos it blurs two totally different things.

So I was just talking about 1990-2007.

Yes, but he wasn't. It's hard to argue what he said about Gillespie not making a third all-time team just because you'd rather believe everything before 1990 happened. He was using a different criteria, which is why he got different results. IMO you should either change your criteria to adjust to us before you argue his point, or respectfully let the issue go due to the difference.

 

[Richard]

Given that I mentioned 1990-2007 right at the start of the exchange, though, I'd kinda presumed he was going along with me.

 

[NUFAN]

Given that I mentioned 1990-2007 right at the start of the exchange, though, I'd kinda presumed he was going along with me.

I knew what you meant. But I was laughing at Gillespies selection in all time Australia side, so I don't see how you thought I wasn't getting him enough credit, because there is no logical way to explain his inclusion in the ODI side. I liked Gillespie he was one of my favourite players, but as everyone knows he performed a lot better in Tests, in all facets of the game TBH.

 

[PhoenixFire]

That team I posted wasn't my actual team btw, just one I tried to remember out of AOC's best XI, I think I got it slightly wrong, but in essence that was the side.

 

[Richard]

I feel the same as I did here and in subsequent parts of the thread.

 

[roseboy64]

West Indies

Desmond Haynes
Gordon Greenidge
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Ramnaresh Sarwan
Chris Gayle
Carl Hooper
Ridley Jacobs/Jeff Dujon
Malcolm Marshall
Curtly Ambrose
Joel Garner
Michael Holding/Courtney Walsh

Chanderpaul is a contender as well.

 

[aussie]

South Africa:

Barry Richards
Herschelle Gibbs
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
Clive Rice
Jonty Rhodes
Mike Procter
Lance Klusener
Mark Boucher
Shaun Pollock
Allan Donald

12th man: Allan Kourie

Lethal side this..

 

[YankeeAlpha]

Pakistan XI

1.Saeed Anwar
2.Aamir Sohail
3.Javed Miandad
4.Mo Yo
5.Inzamam
6.Imran Khan*
7.Moin Khan
8.Wasim Akram
9.Waqar Younis
10.Saqlain Mushtaq
11.Shoaib Akhtar

pretty modern day look to the team..can't help but feel ive missed sum1 out?!lol

 

[Richard]

South Africa:

Barry Richards
Herschelle Gibbs
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
Clive Rice
Jonty Rhodes
Mike Procter
Lance Klusener
Mark Boucher
Shaun Pollock
Allan Donald

12th man: Allan Kourie

Lethal side this..

TBF, most people only pick ODI sides featuring players who played ODIs.

 

[Slifer]

WI:

Haynes
Greenidge
Richards*
Lara
Sarwan
Gayle
Jacobs+
Holding
Ambrose
Roberts
Garner

12th man: Roger Harper

 

[Days of Grace]

Why are you guys picking Gayle at 6, when he's spent most of his career as an opener?

 

[Fiery]

Why are you guys picking Gayle at 6, when he's spent most of his career as an opener?

To be fair, the other 2 guys opening were no slouches

 

[Days of Grace]

Gayle ahead of both of them t.b.h. due to strike-rate.

 

[Fiery]

Gayle ahead of both of them t.b.h. due to strike-rate.

Both Greenidge and Haynes were far better players than Gayle imo. Run rates and strike rates have increased in general since their days

 

[Days of Grace]

Yes, they have. But if this is a team for all eras, then Gayle would be ahead. He is a handy bowler as well.

Unlike my test ratings, which factor in the change in pitch conditions, I have no weighting for ODI players depending on eras. It's just the style of cricket that has changed, not really the conditions (although some could argue that boundaries have become shorter, etc.).

I once tried to factor in a percentage difference for players before 1990, but whilst it meant that Haynes and Greenidge rose in the batting ratings, Garner lost his no.1 bowling rating. You can't have it both ways, it seems.

 

[Fiery]

Yes, they have. But if this is a team for all eras, then Gayle would be ahead. He is a handy bowler as well.

Unlike my test ratings, which factor in the change in pitch conditions, I have no weighting for ODI players depending on eras. It's just the style of cricket that has changed, not really the conditions (although some could argue that boundaries have become shorter, etc.).

I once tried to factor in a percentage difference for players before 1990, but whilst it meant that Haynes and Greenidge rose in the batting ratings, Garner lost his no.1 bowling rating. You can't have it both ways, it seems.

DWTA. You could never convince me Gayle > Greenidge or Haynes. You may be too young to have seen them play. Gayle not in the same league as them imo

 

[Days of Grace]

WI:

Haynes
Greenidge
Richards*
Lara
Sarwan
Gayle
Jacobs+
Holding
Ambrose
Roberts
Garner

12th man: Roger Harper

Gayle in for Greenidge (SR 80 vs. 65), Murray in for Jacobs. Perhaps Junior Murray was the slightly better batsman?