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Funny Shoaib

Burgey

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"Is there a secret behind your mental toughness?"

What mental toughness? Has there been a cricketer who has succumbed to so many apparent injuries over the years, sometimes coinciding with tough tours/ matches?
 

FRAZ

International Captain
There was nothing which was new and yes you see it is again media which has presented him as a drama queen . There is nothing new that poor Shoaib could put and yes if people called him chuker then it's the people's fault and they were proved wrong afterwards . And once again Nandrolone can be increased automaticaly and trust me if I eat a lot of roasted hot dogs or grilled chicken then yes I guess my levels go up too . What the hell is people's problem with Shoaib . They are just jelous that he well and truly parties unlike Marc regularly peachy babeing on net . It's natural and let it come . Stopping Niagra falls is not the solution of the problem but leting it flow is the real natural beauty of life . What's wrong there seriously !!!
 

FRAZ

International Captain
"Is there a secret behind your mental toughness?"

What mental toughness? Has there been a cricketer who has succumbed to so many apparent injuries over the years, sometimes coinciding with tough tours/ matches?
Prove it please !!! I need the medical reports !!
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Look my friend, I have always been a huge Shoaib fan like you. But him talking in public like this serves no purpose. Ganguly... he can learn to concentrating on his game and not make remarks in the media too much. Earlier, Ganguly used to talk a lot in the media which used to work well for him when things were going his way. But once they were not, every thinghesaid used to bring controversy and not much else. Then he shut up, just focus on his game and decided not to speak much in the media which was the right way to go about it.
 

Burgey

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Prove it please !!! I need the medical reports !!
You don't need a medical report to succumb to an injury - you just rule yourself out and say you're hurt.
When Pakistan played out here last and also when they played Australia in the UAE, Shoaib's availability seemed (emphasis on seemed) to be inversely proportional to the ambient air temperature and the flatness of the wickets.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
You don't need a medical report to succumb to an injury - you just rule yourself out and say you're hurt.
When Pakistan played out here last and also when they played Australia in the UAE, Shoaib's availability seemed (emphasis on seemed) to be inversely proportional to the ambient air temperature and the flatness of the wickets.
Not really but I do believe he got frustrated by the lack of support from the other end but hopefully in the next series against Aus this will not be a problem since he will have Asif and Gul from the other end.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not really but I do believe he got frustrated by the lack of support from the other end but hopefully in the next series against Aus this will not be a problem since he will have Asif and Gul from the other end.
It doesn't matter if he is frustrated with the lack of support, he should be given 100% for his country and pulling out because of an "injury" that was never there is like sporting treason.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
It doesn't matter if he is frustrated with the lack of support, he should be given 100% for his country and pulling out because of an "injury" that was never there is like sporting treason.
Agreed but thats Shoaib for you.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I would put Shoaib right up there with Waqar and Wasim on cricketing ability. That he doesn't come close in terms of achievement is some thing which always saddens me.
 

Sanz

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I would put Shoaib right up there with Waqar and Wasim on cricketing ability. That he doesn't come close in terms of achievement is some thing which always saddens me.
Totally Agree. One of my favorite pakistani cricketer who unfortunately didn't do justice to his immense talent.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
You don't need a medical report to succumb to an injury - you just rule yourself out and say you're hurt.
When Pakistan played out here last and also when they played Australia in the UAE, Shoaib's availability seemed (emphasis on seemed) to be inversely proportional to the ambient air temperature and the flatness of the wickets.
He was perfectly honest in UAE, and said he could not cope with the heat. Nor is that surprising - they should never, ever have been playing in that sort of heat and it's disgraceful that they did.

IIRR he's often been accused wrongfully of feigning injury, too. His body is fragile, particularly fragile, and while some might play through pain (probably with reduced performance) he hasn't. Some take offence to that - I, personally, don't have a great problem with it. Shoaib has indeed wasted his talent in many ways, but I don't believe he was as bad in that respect as some paint him.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
You don't need a medical report to succumb to an injury - you just rule yourself out and say you're hurt.
When Pakistan played out here last and also when they played Australia in the UAE, Shoaib's availability seemed (emphasis on seemed) to be inversely proportional to the ambient air temperature and the flatness of the wickets.
Still it's not a proof !!!! HUH
 

Burgey

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I would put Shoaib right up there with Waqar and Wasim on cricketing ability. That he doesn't come close in terms of achievement is some thing which always saddens me.
On raw talent, I would agree with you. He has great talent, and he has to some extent wasted it. Reminds me a bit of Mark Phillipousis in tennis. I remember John McEnroe a few years ago saying of Phillipousis "He'll wake up when he's 40 with a full garage and an empty trophy cabinet".

Quoting Fraz: "Still it's not a proof !!!! HUH".

No, it's not proof because I can't prove it because I'm not him nor am I involved in the team structure.

But I've heard enough comments from his captain(s) and other senior players to cast doubt on some of the reasons for his non-availability.
 

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