***Official** West Indies in England***

[Richard]

Sammy also adds something different.

You'd say? I mean, obviously every bowler is different in his own way, but I'd say Sammy is a bowler who could be said to be "samey" in the context of Powell, Collymore, Taylor and Bravo, in that he's a right-armer who bowls with a fairly orthodox action. Edwards, on the other hand, is a round-arm slinger, as I say.

I mean, I'm not a big one for "you need variation" - if you've got 4 wildly different rubbish bowlers it's not a lot better than having 4 similar rubbish bowlers; and equally if you've got 4 excellent bowlers you're still going to do pretty well (Roberts, Holding, Garner and Croft weren't terribly different, for instance). But I'd say Edwards provided a bit more variation than most.

 

[roseboy64]

Just seen something about people sending thier views to improve/on West Indies cricket to the Governance Committee at www.windiescricket.com/governance_committee.asp. Interesting that. I was thinking last night of starting a thread to that effect. I may well just start said thread and email them the ideas I put forward.

 

[atisha_ro]

and the runs begin to flow...

 

[roseboy64]

You'd say? I mean, obviously every bowler is different in his own way, but I'd say Sammy is a bowler who could be said to be "samey" in the context of Powell, Collymore, Taylor and Bravo, in that he's a right-armer who bowls with a fairly orthodox action. Edwards, on the other hand, is a round-arm slinger, as I say.

I mean, I'm not a big one for "you need variation" - if you've got 4 wildly different rubbish bowlers it's not a lot better than having 4 similar rubbish bowlers; and equally if you've got 4 excellent bowlers you're still going to do pretty well (Roberts, Holding, Garner and Croft weren't terribly different, for instance). But I'd say Edwards provided a bit more variation than most.

Sammy's different not in his action but his bowling pattern. Swinging the ball both ways from what I've seen or maybe more accurate in that he's swinging it in a different direction to the others.

 

[Richard]

Just seen something about people sending thier views to improve/on West Indies cricket to the Governance Committee at www.windiescricket.com/governance_committee.asp. Interesting that. I was thinking last night of starting a thread to that effect. I may well just start said thread and email them the ideas I put forward.

Unusual and potentially hugely beneficial.

 

[roseboy64]

Quite so. Better than nothing. Good man to lead it too not withstanding some of his failures.

 

[atisha_ro]

sometimes i hate to be right... but the batsmen dominated the not-so-varied bowling after tea. or maybe the tea was too warm for the cold Manchester weather to the Windians

 

[roseboy64]

Batsmen haven't dominated IMO. Have just built a good partnership.

 

[Scaly piscine]

What a difference having a decent number 6 & 7 makes, shame Prior had to just gift his wicket away in typical England style.

 

[atisha_ro]

you name it

partnership over, Prior out for 40, spicy performance though, insane bouncer to dismiss him

 

[roseboy64]

Wow a wicket! Almost fell asleep there. England should be out for less than 300 here.

 

[steds]

I'm such a jinx. Checked the score 3 times before I got home. The second was the ball after Pietersen got out and the third were when Collingwood went.

 

[Richard]

Nah, I regret to inform you, Bennett, that you have no influence on what's going on at Old Trafford.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Plunkett bowled backing away.

 

[roseboy64]

Plunkett beaten for pace there and bowled.

 

[steds]

What **** batting.

 

[Richard]

Beaten by the huge outswinger more than anything, but it might have helped if he'd been in line.

EDIT: oh dear, that looks reaLLY poor on the replay!

 

[grecian]

Plunkett bowled backing away.

Gutless wasn't it, that and the ball before.

Reminded me of Phil Tufnell.

 

[steds]

What sort of a reception did Vaughan get, btw?

 

[Spitfires_Fan]

From a purely cricketing perspective, it's really good to see honours about even after the first day, and the West Indies have done really well to rein England in, after they looked like getting away from them a couple of times. Admittedly that's been down to some pretty poor batting, but at least we have something of a contest on our hands now.