♪♪♪;1216732 said:
It would be presumptive to say they have an advantage of seeing Indian coaches. Kapil was a dismal failure as Indian coach, and Sunil prefers air conditioned commentary booths to the coaching role himself.
Yes Kapil was a dismal failure because he was not a COACH, his appointment was wrong based on his reputation not on his coaching qualifications/credentials. And I like it when Gavaskar refuses Indian coaching job. Gavaskar is not a qualified coach and hence we shouldn't be expecting him to take up such a position. And I take serious objection to it when people like yourself criticize him for doing it and also for that he takes up commentary job. Gavsakar does not have an obligation to coach Indian cricket but he and KapilDev have earned their right to have a say in Indian Cricket.
Besides what knowledge do they have of how good Ford or Whatmore are, considering that you place a premium on them having seen the Indian coaches in action?Any comparative study requires one to have witnessed both parties in action, and how much do they know about the techniques followed by Ford or other foreign contender vis a vis their Indian counterparts to make such outlandish statements ?
Whatmore has been an International coach for a while, so was Ford, Gavaskar is involved with Cricket media and has much better understanding to their abilities/inabilities than you or I. And he is also associated with NCA and its coaches to judge their abilities. So yeah I would love it If someone does makes a comparative studies of all these coaches (indian, Asian or or non-asian), which is what I have been trying to argue. Also AFAIK noone has said that foreign coaches are crap, Here is what Wadekar says :-
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04062007/28/indian-coach-better-wadekar.html
If they're good enough, and well in tune with modern coaching techniques and technology, they shouldn't have had any problems landing those jobs with Test nations. What do you suggest as explanation for the total absence of Indian coaches in the International circuit ?
May be those international countries have enough home grown coaches, that's why they dont need Indian coaches, the fact is I dont know. I also dont know if those coaching positions are advertised, I also dont know If Venkatesh Prasad/Robin Singh etc are looking for coaching positions outside of India. So to claim that they are not good enough just because they are not hired in International circuit and that's why they are crap is just ridiculous.
How many International teams had hired Wright/Chappel before they were hired by India ? Or are you saying that you are willing to accept the Wright's/Chappel's coaching credentials at Kent/South Astralia but wont accept Binny coaching stint with world cup winning U-19 team, India Juniors and NCA ? Or that Robin Singh's coaching experience in India means crap but if goes on to coach a crappy county in English Cricket, he suddenly will become a highly talented coach ?
And yet the very same Sachin Tendulkar doesn't propose the names of Achrekar or Paranjpe for the post. Considering the reverance Tendulkar has for Achrekar, it can only mean having been coached at the international level for close to 20 years, he realises that the methods employed by them do not cut it at this level.
I dont give two hoots for Sachin Tendulkar's opinion, just because Tendulkars and Ganguly's of this world dont recommend Indian coaches doesn't mean Indian coaches are inefficient or that they dont have the methods to teach International stars like Tendulkar. Trust me Robin Singh can teach a lof things to Tendulkar and Ganguly, but are they willing to learn from a less-talented guy who used to be their side-kick as a player ? They sure can learn a lot about fielding, mental toughness, team spirit and work ethics from Robin Singh. It is more of a question of their egos than Robin Singh's coaching skills.
It has been 7 years since we had foreign coaches, Ganguly, Tendulkar, Zaheer, Kumble, Bhajji, Sehwag, Yuvraj etc didn't learn a single thing. So to hope that Graham Ford(or whoever) is going come and fix the problem right away is just putting too much of an expectation.
Well, then try explaining away the "Indians can do better than foreigners" statements made by Kapil too. I have no problems with an Indian coach as long as he is more qualified than the foreigners vying for the job, but to dismiss outsiders purely on the basis of blind partriotism as Kapil and co are doing is stupid to say the least. .
That's what I have been saying albiet in support of Indian coaches. Pick the best coach regardless of his origin. Regionalistic bias is going to stay because Zonal system is still there and a coach cant do much. Having a foreign coach is no recipe for success as was proved by Chappel's two years in India.
Besides, it is the players themselves who seek a foreign coach. So you can either trust them and assume that they either perceive a regionalistic bias among Indian coaches or believe them to be inferior to better qualified foreign coaches, or rubbish their opinions and appoint a coach that is unwanted by them and be prepared for all the consequences arising from that. This is a time to be practical, not jingoistic.
Who is being Jingoist here, not me, neither are guys like KapilDev, Gavaskar, who see Indian coaches like Binny.Venky Prasad/Robin Singh toil day in and day out only to be not even considered for coaching position why because they are Indians.
And Players opinions should not matter, not what after what has happened in last 2-3 years. They are driven by their self Interest and their self Interestonly. Had Ganguly known what Chappel had in mind for him, he would never hace recommended him as India coach. If players find it hard to get along with the coach, then tough luck dude, go play Ranji Trophy.
