Zinzan
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Who are the greatest not to make the annual list ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisden_Cricketers_of_the_Year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisden_Cricketers_of_the_Year
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Greatest not to make a Wisden's top 5 list
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SJS
Hall of Fame Member
All those non-English players who did not have a great season touring England.
sideshowtim
Banned
When blokes like Robert Key have won the award it kind of cheapeans it. Basically just means for an international cricketer that you had a decent tour in England. I think the Wisden Leading Cricketer of the Year is a more prestigous award. No one will end their career saying "Damn, wasn't one of the 5 cricketers of the year!"
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Its not a question of how prestigious the award is. Please understand how it is AWARDED in the first place.
It is awarded to the top five cricketers in the English cricket season every year.. And, of course, you are not allowed a second award.
So. All those who may have averaged a hypothetical 300 per innings are ruled out if the same was achieved not on English soil. So Gavaskar's 700 plus runs in his debut series in Windies dont count.
Also those who may scored brilliantly and ON ENGLISH SOIL would be ruled out if they had already won it before. Thats why Bradman did not win it for each of his England tours when he always averaged above 90.
exactly...it's a largely irrelevant list to anyone outside of england with fairly stupid rules of not nominating anyone more than once...
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nor have I. Far too exclusive for mine.
Fiery
Banned
indeed... not being able to be in the top 5 more than once is a stupid rule
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
They're largely irrelevant to anyone outside England, yes, and I fully understand anyone who is not a resident of these isles not being too concerned with them.
But the only-being-picked-once thing is not stupid at all. That's the whole point of it - some players would be winning every other year if you could win them multiple times.
Fiery
Banned
nah, it's stupid. Wisden should have evolved from being an English-orientated publication about 100 years ago
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
It has. Although it shouldn't have about 100 years ago - 70, maybe.
But there are some parts which remain, having been 120-year traditions. They actually did change them for a short time, then realised what a terrible idea that was, and reverted back while adding a new part to take the place of the debunked change.
Wisden's primary purpose, though, has been and always will be English cricket.
But there are some parts which remain, having been 120-year traditions. They actually did change them for a short time, then realised what a terrible idea that was, and reverted back while adding a new part to take the place of the debunked change.
Wisden's primary purpose, though, has been and always will be English cricket.
Fiery
Banned
Which is why I don't bother with it, and which is a shame given that it's so often referred to as "The Bible" (my ass)
Fiery
Banned
What a load of ****
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
The Cricketer of the Year award is an achievement award to recognise a player has played well within that year.
The nature of the award only being handed out once to a player is as its a nod of recognition for performing to a high standard. Once its been given you have been recognised and then move onto the next worthy player.
Think of it like an MBE for the English cricket season. Once you have your MBE thats it. There may be other awards to win but you will never get another MBE no matter what you do or how much you excel.
The nature of the award only being handed out once to a player is as its a nod of recognition for performing to a high standard. Once its been given you have been recognised and then move onto the next worthy player.
Think of it like an MBE for the English cricket season. Once you have your MBE thats it. There may be other awards to win but you will never get another MBE no matter what you do or how much you excel.
thanks for the analogy...yet another irrelevant award in this day and age, member of the british "empire"...
cover drive man
International Captain
Five isn't enough in my opinion, there are so many good seasons for players across the world to judge for who are the five best in the world for the season in my opinion they should make it ten. So that they can judge more easier.
adharcric
International Coach
Haha, WTF. You must be mistaken - many "readers around the world" really don't give a **** about English cricket.