Super Eight

[Ash_A55]

Yeah, ridculous really. Englands NRR should basically have stayed the same or gone down, because of their slow and rubbish batting.

We got the job done in the end, have faith

 

[PhoenixFire]

hahaha..why? Maybe we should just get a panel of 4 judges to give teams marks out of 10 for batting prowess, instead of having NRR (which remember includes a teams bowling performances as well)

Which is why it should have stayed the same. Batting slowly should be a negative thing, not non-effective. It should basically be like this.

Scoring quickly - NRR +
Scoring slowly - NRR -
Bowling out the opposition quickly - NRR +
Bowling out the opposition - NRR -
Opposition having a low RR - NRR +
Oppostion having a low RR - NRR -

Easy as that.

 

[PY]

indeed...although I really do think everyone is being a bit patronising when it comes to B'desh now. Lets face it, a win is a win, and England did get B'desh out cheaply (remember B'desh have already dismissed SA and India for under 200 this WC).

If this had been a win against SA in this manner, I dont think anyone would be saying words like ghastly, dire or feeble....and sure B'desh arent South Africa, B'desh are the team that just whipped South Africas ass.

So maybe a bit more credit to B'desh here for a good performance second half.

Yeah, the Bangers side might even have more experience than England in ODIs and their record is certainly not that much worse than England's if truth be told.

Terrible performance but Bangladesh aren't as shabby as people make out. After the bowling, we should have mauled them but a win is a win.

 

[Dasgupta]

Yeah, the Bangers side might even have more experience than England in ODIs and their record is certainly not that much worse than England's if truth be told.

Terrible performance but Bangladesh aren't as shabby as people make out. After the bowling, we should have mauled them but a win is a win.

Can we call that the Bangers v Mash game?

 

[PY]

Speaking of Bangers and Mash, there's no doubt in my mind which team were Bodger and which team were Badger in the game today.

Only English people might understand that.

 

[Swervy]

Which is why it should have stayed the same. Batting slowly should be a negative thing, not non-effective. It should basically be like this.

Scoring quickly - NRR +
Scoring slowly - NRR -
Bowling out the opposition quickly - NRR +
Bowling out the opposition - NRR -
Opposition having a low RR - NRR +
Oppostion having a low RR - NRR -

Easy as that.

I dont really understand...Net Run rate is what it is.

If you have dismissed a team in under 50 overs, and then you win the game, your net run rate for the game is positive, and so if your NRR was negative before that game like Englands was, and you win then your NRR gets better....its not a case of what it SHOULD be , its a case of what it is

 

[Dasgupta]

Simple equation for England to make the semis now. Need to beat both SA and West Indies and for NZ to beat SA and they are in. NRR will remain above SA if that happens. Not out of the question by any means.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Simple equation for England to make the semis now. Need to beat both SA and West Indies and for NZ to beat SA and they are in. NRR will remain above SA if that happens. Not out of the question by any means.

England would have 8 points to SA's 6 anyway if that happens. The key thing is for England to beat SA and match SA's result against NZ when England play WI. England already have a NRR edge that's equivalent to a margin of over 50 runs in a game. If England beat SA then the NRR will go in favour of England, tho SA could have thrashed NZ by then.

 

[Dasgupta]

England would have 8 points to SA's 6 anyway if that happens. The key thing is for England to beat SA and match SA's result against NZ when England play WI. England already have a NRR edge that's equivalent to a margin of over 50 runs in a game. If England beat SA then that edge will get bigger (the +/- NRRs might actually get closer, but the actual buffer England will have going into the last game would still get bigger).

Right you are

 

[Gloucefan]

Part of me fears making the semis as I know I will get my hopes up and them we will simply go out after a p*ss poor performance against whoever.

The West Indies series can't come quick enough for me.

 

[marc71178]

This has totally ****ed up our NRR. We need to post like 600 against SA to make it decent.

I'm not sure how NRR is relevant to be honest.

England's is already ahead of SA's and the only way we can realistically go through is to beat them, in which case our NRR will be further ahead of theirs.

Would take a freak pair of results in the other games for NRR to not favour England over SA if they end up tied on points.

 

[marc71178]

Yeah, ridculous really. Englands NRR should basically have stayed the same or gone down, because of their slow and rubbish batting.

How should it have gone down when by definition of having won, they've scored quicker than their opponents?

 

[marc71178]

hahaha..why? Maybe we should just get a panel of 4 judges to give teams marks out of 10 for batting prowess, instead of having NRR (which remember includes a teams bowling performances as well)

I'm sure there's a forum member who'd put his hand up to be one of the judges...

10 out of 10 for G Smith I dare say...

 

[simmy]

Speaking of Bangers and Mash, there's no doubt in my mind which team were Bodger and which team were Badger in the game today.

Only English people might understand that.

Even then we are thinking back 10 years!

 

[Raghav]

Its really good cricket from Bangladesh. I dont think Indians will perform even to the class of Bangladesh had they entered S8

 

[Turbinator]

Its really good cricket from Bangladesh. I dont think Indians will perform even to the class of Bangladesh had they entered S8

Hmmm, so I saw your name for the last post in this thread. Was surprised you were still posting since India is long gone out of the tournament and all the numerous discussions surrounding it as well, and now there was really no way possible for you to criticize them. Anyways, decided to check it out, since I've barely ever seen you post anything other than your negative views on Indian cricket.

Anyways, surprise surprise .

Doesn't matter though, you're free to criticize them as much as you want, not stopping you... Just felt like sharing this lil story with ya' .

And nah, I am pretty darn sure we would've beaten more than just Ireland and one other Super 8 team. Not questioning Bangladesh's spot in the Super 8s as they fully deserved it, just responding back.

 

[The_Bunny]

What is with assuming that Sri Lanka has a free pass into the Semi's....

With a loss to Aus and NZ and a win against Ireland they would have 8 points

With a bad loss to either or both their Nrr wouldnt be fantastic either...

Sa now plays Eng and New Zealand and I would back them to beat at least one if not both....

I wouldnt Rate Sri Lanka's chances above SA's except for their higher Nrr, On the other Hand if their batsmen (Jayawardene and Jayasuriya exepted) again fail to fire and their bowlers cant pull off more miracles then their could be a big loss or two coming up..... goodbye Nrr

Rant ended

 

[Dasgupta]

What is with assuming that Sri Lanka has a free pass into the Semi's....

With a loss to Aus and NZ and a win against Ireland they would have 8 points

With a bad loss to either or both their Nrr wouldnt be fantastic either...

Sa now plays Eng and New Zealand and I would back them to beat at least one if not both....

I wouldnt Rate Sri Lanka's chances above SA's except for their higher Nrr, On the other Hand if their batsmen (Jayawardene and Jayasuriya exepted) again fail to fire and their bowlers cant pull off more miracles then their could be a big loss or two coming up..... goodbye Nrr

Rant ended

You're assuming England qualify here

 

[pup11]

This English side is a hopeless bunch, i mean they should have chased down the 140 odd with ease in order to improve their NRR but they limped through to the target, a very unconvincing win for England to say the least.



Seriously i can't see England beating South Africa on their current form, but it would be fun to see KP v/s South Africa because the last time when these 2 teams meet South Africans had a lot to say to KP.

 

[Prince EWS]

This English side is a hopeless bunch, i mean they should have chased down the 140 odd with ease in order to improve their NRR but they limped through to the target, a very unconvincing win for England to say the least.



Seriously i can't see England beating South Africa on their current form, but it would be fun to see KP v/s South Africa because the last time when these 2 teams meet South Africans had a lot to say to KP.

They won by 5 wickets with 5 overs to spare. That's a pretty convincing win IMO.

The batting was far from convincing, but the win in general certainly was as far as I'm concerned.