Super Eight

[open365]

Hence why they need to be given a kick up the backside and be warned that if they don't get their act together by the time this WC is over they're both out of the team.

I don't care who the replacements are, we're going no where with Vaughan and Strauss in the side

 

[PhoenixFire]

Vaughan shpould be dropped from both forms of the game until he sorts himself out, Strauss can stay in Tests, he is still a good opener.

 

[open365]

I don't think Fletcher will ever have the balls to drop any of them in any form anymore tbh, he has a thing with Michael Vaughan, in his last interview he said Vaughan is a very very good ODI player and before the tournament he said he was in the team because he was a world class batsman.

May i ask you Dunc, since when has an average of 26 with a SR of 68 been world class?

It's so pathetic how narrow minded he is

 

[PhoenixFire]

You'd have to have some serious bollocks to drop Vaughan at this time. We need a fearless coach who isn't afraid to drop people who are crap like Vaughan.

 

[Pratters]

May i ask you Dunc, since when has an average of 26 with a SR of 68 been world class?

 

[steds]

The Mutant Ninja Turtles.

 

[open365]

You'd have to have some serious bollocks to drop Vaughan at this time. We need a fearless coach who isn't afraid to drop people who are crap like Vaughan.

I agree with you there, but don't know where the fear is coming from, the media have been getting on Vaughan's back for a while now, though i'm the first to admit we haven't got any replacements for him which i see as Fletcher's fault for bringing him and Dalrymple here in the first place.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Nah Dalrymple is OK tbh, he can bat, bowl (a bit), and field pretty well. He isn't entirely useless, he's certainly a better ODI batsman than Vaughan.

 

[Pratters]

Fletcher seems to be stuck up with fixed ideas. Matthew Engel's editorial in this year's almanack was pretty spot on regarding Fletcher. From the piece:

Against this background, Fletcher was able to create a hermetically sealed world in which he believed his players could thrive. This was the "England bubble". And the players did thrive. The first five years of this millennium represented English cricket's most sustained period of success since the 1950s. England played some vibrant, thrilling cricket. Fletcher's professionalism, his seeming omniscience and his sense of certainty played a major role in making this happen. It all culminated in the summer of 2005.

But there are problems living inside a bubble: eventually the oxygen runs out. And if this one began as the Eden Project, it had turned by this winter into something like the Big Brother house. Accurate information rarely seeped out; it also stopped seeping in. In the nature of things, players came and went from the bubble, but Fletcher was ever-present, and in the rare downtime allowed by this demanding job, he disappeared to his home in Cape Town. He isn't a man given to ****tail party chit-chat either (to put it mildly). So he lost touch. Even experts have to keep listening and learning; Fletcher, on the evidence of the 2006-07 Ashes, just stopped. Indeed, one senior county coach, a man who should be in constant touch with the England management, told me recently that Fletcher had not spoken to him in more than two years.

 

[PhoenixFire]

And he's out.

 

[open365]

Nah Dalrymple is OK tbh, he can bat, bowl (a bit), and field pretty well. He isn't entirely useless, he's certainly a better ODI batsman than Vaughan.

I wouldn't say certainly as imo both of them ARE pretty useless

 

[Scaly piscine]

England's top order yet again not doing one thing or the other.

 

[PhoenixFire]

England are to rely on Pietersen and Collingwood to sort out the problem; again.

 

[Scaly piscine]

What a load of rubbish. Only England could have made a game of this after bowling Bangladesh out for 143.

 

[Pratters]

Makes you wonder how well Bangladesh could have done had they batted a bit sensibly and avoided losing wickets in a hurry earlier in the game.

 

[open365]

*head in hands*

 

[PhoenixFire]

Oh for ****s sake England.

 

[wpdavid]

KP illustrates why his position in the official rankings is indeed bull****.
Which, funnily enough, is exactly where England are in danger of finding themselves.

 

[grecian]

We're going to lose this.

ho-hum

 

[marc71178]

One decent spell a season (being optimistic), yep that's enough for Fletcher.

Yes, and since Plunkett's had his for this winter, there's no point in keeping him in any more.