Exactly. That's why I liked the article.
Are you suggesting that Chappell isn't 'straight-talking'?
Those who spread those ideas are very few compared to the no. of guys who have been shouting up and down that the only reason India lost is because of Chappell, including some ex-cricketers. I think addressing the fact that the players played poorly and that the seniors failed to show the way would have made a better column. And again, in the article, he distinctly gives the impression of blaming everything on Chappell. You post an article in your cricket blog right after the match when India were knocked out of the WC, people would naturally expect it to address the reasons why India lost. To focus on one thing given the timing of the article is not the best idea. And again, I am still not sure if Kesavan wasn't trying to blame everything on Chappell. No line in the article suggested that. IF it had, then it would have been a different issue.
No I'm not. The author's simply saying that he disagrees with the simplistic analysis of stereotyping Australians as straight-talking and Indians as otherwise and positing that as the reasons for the so called debacle.
Nope I don't see it at all. Look at the title of the piece - 'Indians are like that'. Look at the following lines:
But that is deep routed and doesn't just apply to cricket.
yeah, I did. Again, is he trying to say that INdians CAN handle a straight talking coach?
Two of my most hated pethates. Glad to see you share them.
Tbh HB, that's BS. As Kesavan said, it's orientalist nonsense. Sure. there are cultural differences, but comments such as yours above just make me rue that people are still willing to unwittingly reinforce tired, inaccurate and stupid stereotypes.
Totally agree with the above and I dont think it is too far off from truth. Dasa and others like him find it hard to accept but that's because they probably don't fit the above mostly because of their exposure to Aussie/foreign culture. (I hope they take it as a compliment and not as a personal attack on them.)
Dude JW took India to the WC finals, Chappell's team couldn't make it to super-8. JW built a team, which Chappell destoyed.
Chappell is a poor coach, horrible man manager, please accept it. Obviously Indian cricket (BCCI/Players/media) are to blame as well but it doesn't mean whatever Chappell said or did was right. Chappell's biggest problem was that he pitted players against each other, pitted players/media against each other and that's a terrible situation. No one wants a coach like that. No one could trust him.
I don't agree with it because it's just reinforcing the same tired old stereotypes that have been used to subjugate people for decades. There are cultural differences which I recognise, but it's irresponsible and foolish to simply paint the issue as "Indians can't handle him" - it's belittling and offensive, and Kesavan rightly pointed that out. Tbh, it's just as offensive to say that Australians are always forthright and "straight-talking" - another point that was quite prominent in the discussion surrounding this issue. Again, just stupid stereotypes. It's odd as well because Greg Chappell hasn't really been known for being a "straight talker" as far as I know...that's something I've heard about Ian Chappell rather than Greg....it's almost like some elements of the media turned straight to the stereotypes.
Why does there have to be a wrong and a right way. This is a professional squad of mature adults who are the best paid sportsmen in the game.
Firstly I have trouble believing that it happened as simply as that(Chappel leaking his views to the press, did't Dalmia leak the email??) even if it did, Indian cricket is so deeply immersed in politics that a cricket coach has to be a seasoned politician as well to be effective, which is really rubbish. But to his credit Chappel managed both Ganguly and Dalmia. And Ganguly returned a better player.
Why do we have to even discuss what "style" or "method" should be used to deal with the Indian team ? Do you hear the Aussies or the South Africans discussing something like this. Only Prima Donnas need to be handled, not real professional cricketers.
Chappel did not distroy the Indian team, they just got eliminated in a tournament.
You seem quite sure of what you have to say. Do you really think that the cricket gossip columns are any more credible than the film gossip columns?
I don't understand how you can say he destroyed it. As I think I said in another thread he shouldn't get the praise if India did well and he shouldn't be blamed (that much) if India do poorly. I believe that with most coaches as a rule. Also, losing two matches in the WC isn't running a side into the ground. What if we had a similar system to 1999? Australia would have been out already when they lost 2 of the first 3 games. Could you accuse Geoff Marsh of destroying the team? No. India were unlucky, as were Pakistan that they had two bad performances that happened to be WC group games where there was no room for it. Saying anything else is an overreaction in my books.
What is this typical attitude? I certainly haven't seen a typical attitude on CW or anywhere else. What I have seen is a vast array of opinions and viewpoints that differ quite abit on the current situation. I haven't seen a so called 'typical' attitude at all really.