Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
If the crowds were better, and the we had an India-Pak match in there somewhere... Best WC ever!
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Super Eight
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Swervy
International Captain
well both Bangladesh and Ireland I think have shown that they are more than capable of playing at a good enough level to worry the top teams in this Super 8s section.
I think it has been good for cricket as a whole to see the complacent India and Pakistan be replaced by the enthusiasm of Bangladesh and Ireland
I think it has been good for cricket as a whole to see the complacent India and Pakistan be replaced by the enthusiasm of Bangladesh and Ireland
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
You over-rate Petersen quite a bit IMO. He's not even close to international class and, as Liam pointed out, he's not much better (if at all better!) than Smith as a bowler.
Trigger_Tiger
U19 Captain
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Feeling so proud to be a Bangladeshi
!!!!!
Feeling so proud to be a Bangladeshi
!!!!!
LA ICE-E
State Captain
Change your mind now? Ireland played good cricket so far in the super 8 while bangladesh just made up for their bad performances.
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's cricket's equivalent of the marathon - long and boring
Look's like all was not well in the SA camp.
Likkel respec', pleez by Neil Manthorp
Posted on 1 April 2007
Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock are a little irritated at the moment, which may not be a bad thing. Not necessarily for them, of course, but for the team and for South Africa. While both men are able to publicly rise above criticism and adopt the 'water off a duck's back' approach, privately they are cross.
And when Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock are cross, they tend to focus their emotions into their cricket. And unlike many players who boil over and become distracted, these men tend to produce match-winning performances under duress.
After an unbeaten century against The Netherlands, Kallis was lambasted by some sections of the media for the sluggish pace of his innings in a losing cause against Australia while Pollock, who conceded 83 runs against the Aussies in what he described as "my worst day at the office", also came in for some heavy criticism.
If Mickey Arthur is to be believed (and he is the most honest man in cricket) then it wasn't the criticism itself which hurt - but the nature of it. Aparently, a poll was immediately run back in South Africa asking whether Kallis should even be in the one-day team while Pollock's role with the new ball was questioned. If that's true, it's extraordinary.
They are South Africa's two best players, two of the greatest allrounders ever to play cricket.
"There will always be criticism and everyone accepts that, although I thought the criticism of Jacques after the Australia game was unkind and uncalled for given everything he has done for South African cricket. But he laid all that to rest with his performance against Sri Lanka and I expect Shaun to do exactly the same as the tournament progresses," Arthur said a couple of days ago.
Many people said that Arthur was too 'soft' to work in international cricket, that he lacked the necessary iron fist. Those people may be not be surprised to hear Arthur defend his two biggest stars. Well, do be surprised because Arthur did have some stern words to say - but he did it behind closed doors.
"We had a serious chat after the Australia game, I'm not going to shy away from that or deny it. I believe in tackling tricky situations head-on within the team environment and when the time came for our debrief session after the game we had a strong chat about Jacques's batting," Arthur said.
"His role is to bat through the innings, everyone knows that, but the game determines how you should bat and his innings was not what was required at that time. At 160 without loss in the 21st over we were well on track. Jacques, however, has won so many games for South Africa, he's always a potential match-winner and he's our best player," Arthur said.
"Jacques accepted that he had got his pacing wrong against Australia and that's going to happen from time to time, everyone has a bad day. But it happens a lot less to Jacques than most other players," Arthur said, "and he put the issue to bed against Sri Lanka where he was absolutely awesome and took us to within a couple of runs of victory."
Apparently, Kallis was livid when he heard the things being said back home, and rightly so. For the last couple of years we have heard endless accounts of how the middle and lower middle order can smash the ball out of the park with more efficiency than any other team in the world (while Kallis provides security and stability at the other end).
Well, Warner Park in St Kitts is the smallest ground in international cricket and, whereas the vaunted quartet of Gibbs, Boucher, Kemp and Pollock have lifted the barrier of a 'comfortable' run chase from seven runs an over to nearer nine, Kallis made the decision that ten or eleven was within their capabilities. And well it might have been, on another day.
Kallis has won more man-of-the-match awards than any other South African player; in fact, he does it so often we take it for granted. How do you think he feels when he hears people saying that Robin Peterson won the game against Sri Lanka? Kallis scored 86 - Peterson's only runs were the four streaky ones past slip.
Pollock was winning match and even series awards just a couple of months ago against India and Pakistan and has been doing so for a dozen years.
South African sportsmen often refer to their home supporters being the most fickle in the world. In my experience, that is not true. But when people turn nasty about Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock after a single, modest performance, you can understand why they say that.
Not that this is supposed to appease either of the great men. I rather like the idea of Kallis and Pollock remaining irritated for at least a couple of weeks yet. South Africa might just become favourites.
Likkel respec', pleez by Neil Manthorp
Posted on 1 April 2007
Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock are a little irritated at the moment, which may not be a bad thing. Not necessarily for them, of course, but for the team and for South Africa. While both men are able to publicly rise above criticism and adopt the 'water off a duck's back' approach, privately they are cross.
And when Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock are cross, they tend to focus their emotions into their cricket. And unlike many players who boil over and become distracted, these men tend to produce match-winning performances under duress.
After an unbeaten century against The Netherlands, Kallis was lambasted by some sections of the media for the sluggish pace of his innings in a losing cause against Australia while Pollock, who conceded 83 runs against the Aussies in what he described as "my worst day at the office", also came in for some heavy criticism.
If Mickey Arthur is to be believed (and he is the most honest man in cricket) then it wasn't the criticism itself which hurt - but the nature of it. Aparently, a poll was immediately run back in South Africa asking whether Kallis should even be in the one-day team while Pollock's role with the new ball was questioned. If that's true, it's extraordinary.
They are South Africa's two best players, two of the greatest allrounders ever to play cricket.
"There will always be criticism and everyone accepts that, although I thought the criticism of Jacques after the Australia game was unkind and uncalled for given everything he has done for South African cricket. But he laid all that to rest with his performance against Sri Lanka and I expect Shaun to do exactly the same as the tournament progresses," Arthur said a couple of days ago.
Many people said that Arthur was too 'soft' to work in international cricket, that he lacked the necessary iron fist. Those people may be not be surprised to hear Arthur defend his two biggest stars. Well, do be surprised because Arthur did have some stern words to say - but he did it behind closed doors.
"We had a serious chat after the Australia game, I'm not going to shy away from that or deny it. I believe in tackling tricky situations head-on within the team environment and when the time came for our debrief session after the game we had a strong chat about Jacques's batting," Arthur said.
"His role is to bat through the innings, everyone knows that, but the game determines how you should bat and his innings was not what was required at that time. At 160 without loss in the 21st over we were well on track. Jacques, however, has won so many games for South Africa, he's always a potential match-winner and he's our best player," Arthur said.
"Jacques accepted that he had got his pacing wrong against Australia and that's going to happen from time to time, everyone has a bad day. But it happens a lot less to Jacques than most other players," Arthur said, "and he put the issue to bed against Sri Lanka where he was absolutely awesome and took us to within a couple of runs of victory."
Apparently, Kallis was livid when he heard the things being said back home, and rightly so. For the last couple of years we have heard endless accounts of how the middle and lower middle order can smash the ball out of the park with more efficiency than any other team in the world (while Kallis provides security and stability at the other end).
Well, Warner Park in St Kitts is the smallest ground in international cricket and, whereas the vaunted quartet of Gibbs, Boucher, Kemp and Pollock have lifted the barrier of a 'comfortable' run chase from seven runs an over to nearer nine, Kallis made the decision that ten or eleven was within their capabilities. And well it might have been, on another day.
Kallis has won more man-of-the-match awards than any other South African player; in fact, he does it so often we take it for granted. How do you think he feels when he hears people saying that Robin Peterson won the game against Sri Lanka? Kallis scored 86 - Peterson's only runs were the four streaky ones past slip.
Pollock was winning match and even series awards just a couple of months ago against India and Pakistan and has been doing so for a dozen years.
South African sportsmen often refer to their home supporters being the most fickle in the world. In my experience, that is not true. But when people turn nasty about Jacques Kallis and Shaun Pollock after a single, modest performance, you can understand why they say that.
Not that this is supposed to appease either of the great men. I rather like the idea of Kallis and Pollock remaining irritated for at least a couple of weeks yet. South Africa might just become favourites.
Trigger_Tiger
U19 Captain
Kallis hits critics back - with his bat
Posted on 04 April 2007 - 06:19
All-rounder Jacques Kallis hit back at his critics after he led South Africa to victory with an unbeaten half century against Ireland in a World Cup Super Eights match in Guyana on Tuesday.
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Kallis followed up his knock of 86 against Sri Lanka last week by top-scoring with 66 in South Africa's seven-wicket win on Tuesday.
However, before those two performances Kallis's slow batting was blamed for South Africa's 83-run defeat by Australia in the group stage of the tournament in St Kitts.
Some commentators said Kallis should be axed from the team but the allrounder has had the last laugh.
"I've been playing a big role in helping South Africa win games and that's the most satisfying aspect," Kallis told a news conference.
"I've never minded criticism but I think there's a line you don't cross and certain people crossed that line. That's fine, I will remember who those guys are in future.
"But that's life, you're up one day and down the next. The only way you can prove people wrong is by putting in performances and winning games for South Africa.
"I've never been too worried about what's been written, I'm not going to change my game just because a few people aren't happy with it. I've been given a role in the side and that's the way I perform."
South Africa's next match is against Bangladesh on Saturday, while Ireland will take on New Zealand on Monday.
Posted on 04 April 2007 - 06:19
All-rounder Jacques Kallis hit back at his critics after he led South Africa to victory with an unbeaten half century against Ireland in a World Cup Super Eights match in Guyana on Tuesday.
To get live scores from the cricket sent to your cell phone, send CSA to 34911. This is a SuperSMS service, with each SMS costing R2.
Kallis followed up his knock of 86 against Sri Lanka last week by top-scoring with 66 in South Africa's seven-wicket win on Tuesday.
However, before those two performances Kallis's slow batting was blamed for South Africa's 83-run defeat by Australia in the group stage of the tournament in St Kitts.
Some commentators said Kallis should be axed from the team but the allrounder has had the last laugh.
"I've been playing a big role in helping South Africa win games and that's the most satisfying aspect," Kallis told a news conference.
"I've never minded criticism but I think there's a line you don't cross and certain people crossed that line. That's fine, I will remember who those guys are in future.
"But that's life, you're up one day and down the next. The only way you can prove people wrong is by putting in performances and winning games for South Africa.
"I've never been too worried about what's been written, I'm not going to change my game just because a few people aren't happy with it. I've been given a role in the side and that's the way I perform."
South Africa's next match is against Bangladesh on Saturday, while Ireland will take on New Zealand on Monday.
LA ICE-E
State Captain
lol
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
Good to see Bangladesh win another game, particularly another game against a quality side.