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Kumble announces ODI retirement
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Hoppy1987
U19 Debutant
well not as many as a decent spinner who could turn the ball, in fact no where near as many. IE Shane Warne, Murali etc etc
Hoppy1987
U19 Debutant
i still rate Harbhajan above Kunble anyday
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Who are these 'etc etc' after Warne and Murali?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
In Tests or ODIs?
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
I'd rate Kumble better in tests and both about the same in ODI's. Harbhajan has really turned into an average bowler IMO.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Danish KaneriaWho are these 'etc etc' after Warne and Murali?
Mushtaq Ahmed
Stuart MacGill
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Absolutely - MacGill has bowled wristspin better than most people ever will. BUT that has still not made him a particularly effective bowler. A decent seamer will always be a far better bet.
But this is what annoys me. It's very, very unlikely MacGill would have amounted to much had he played in a different era to Warne, because he'd have played far more games, and would most likely IMO have ended-up with a record more akin to Jim Higgs than Richie Benaud. Possibly not even that good.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Kaneria in ODI makes my head explode. Unless you're talking tests, in which case it still makes my head explode (compared to Kumble).
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
There is absolutely no way that MacGill is better than Kumble, and Mushtaq\Kaneria have always been on\off bowlers - Kumble has generally been very consistent - if the pitch is receptive to spin, you can usually bank on him.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
No, Kumble has turned into an average ODI bowler. Harbhajan started off iffily (not that unusual) and has been excellent for the last 4 or 5 years.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Yes,but Harbhajan really hasn't been all that good for the past 1-2 years in ODI's TBH.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Not sure I agree with that TBH.He has been pretty effective at test match level and a good leg spinner which MacGill is is going to take wickets even though it might cost him a few runs.I'd rather have an erratic but wicket taking leggie to an alright seamer.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
If he get's picked ahead of Ramesh Powar.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
MacGill has not often taken wickets - just the odd game here and there.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
It's very likely that Powar won't be around all that long, anyway, but until then it's perfectly possible that the two will play together at least some of the time.If he get's picked ahead of Ramesh Powar.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
How come MacGill has a better strikerate and a higher wickets to games ratio than Warne?.MacGill is a wicket taker but is just not got the accuracy of a Warne.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Why the hell not!!!!.The guy's 28 ffs and has had a fantastic year with the ball in ODI's much better than Harbhajan.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Get rid of Bangladesh and that ludicrous World XI for starters, then you've got his proper Test record.
Then look at a match-by-match breakdown and see how many games he's actually been poor in. Way, WAAAAY more than he's been good in.