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Group B - Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, Bermuda

James90

Cricketer Of The Year
India played poor and didn't deserve to go to the next round. Also, I don't like the largest country crap. India is largest in terms of money and fans but not in terms of infrastructure etc. In any case they were poor short term as well regardless of larger problems which engulf Indian cricket.
Kudos to you. First Indian I've ever seen to call it as it is.
 

pup11

International Coach
I think atm most of the senior Indian players are nothing but seriously average on the field as fielders and their running between the wickets is also poor, so i just don't want to think how bad they could be for years from now.

These Indian players would have to improve their fitness levels a lot if they want to hang around till age of 37 or 38.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Perhaps. He'll be 37 though - don't see it happening.
Lara, McGrath and Jayasuriya are all 37 I think. I think Dravid will get there, if not I think he'll probably get very close. Like Fuller said, even though Tendulkar is younger I don't think he will be able to carry on.
 

adharcric

International Coach
I think he'll be there in 2011 myself. Hard to see Tendulkar making it though, even though Tendulkar is younger. Dravid, Ponting and Kallis will all be there, fitness permitting.
Lara, McGrath and Jayasuriya are all 37 I think. I think Dravid will get there, if not I think he'll probably get very close. Like Fuller said, even though Tendulkar is younger I don't think he will be able to carry on.
Actually, I agree. Dravid has a good chance but Tendulkar is unlikely to last that long. I just want some old-timers to go by 2008 so that we can build an athletic team for once.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
Actually, I agree. Dravid has a good chance but Tendulkar is unlikely to last that long. I just want some old-timers to go by 2008 so that we can build an athletic team for once.
Guys like Ponting are by no means young but are still some of the fittest guys around. I don't think age can be used as an excuse for a lack of athleticism. India have a very weak work ethic, that explains their lack of athleticism.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Actually, I agree. Dravid has a good chance but Tendulkar is unlikely to last that long. I just want some old-timers to go by 2008 so that we can build an athletic team for once.
While age is a factor, I don't think that is is the main reason. In Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly you have three serviceable fielders in ODI's. Nothing spectacular or flash but they do get the job done, that's alright. It's guys like Kumble, Munaf Patel and Sehwag who are reasonably poor fielders and who are letting the team down. Don't necessarily have to get rid of the older chaps to increase the fielding prowess. With Yuvraj you have one of the best fielders going around, building an intimidating inner circle around him shouldn't be too hard. Once Raina and Kaif start performing, then they will also be in there to strength the circle.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Age is not an excuse for a lack of athleticism provided that the concept of fitness has been there all along. In Australia, that's certainly true. In India, fitness has become crucial only recently. Among the youngsters, the only one who is unfit is Munaf and that's largely because he hails from a village and probably didn't get any proper fitness training as a youth. Besides that, you'll find that most young cricketers are fit because the concept of fitness was important in their development. Tendulkar and Ganguly are far from liabilities in the field but the sooner we can get some young talent in there the better. It's not just a case of fielding either - the young lads need some exposure, period. Mind you, I don't want to get rid of Sourav and Sachin ASAP - just saying that they should retire as soon as they aren't contributing enough because the youth movement is especially important for India.
 
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Raghav

International Vice-Captain
Dont think Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly's career is very spectacular considering they play most of the matches on batsman friendly conditions and its the main reason we see many asian players crossing 10k runs easily...
Useless careers are they without winning a world cup for their country , if you think they r spectacular then u r in wrong trap.
 

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
WC is a must over personal achievements in my book too, but that doesn't mean Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly's career have not been spectacular. If WC was the only measure of spectacular, then players from NZ & ENG should never be called spectacular, but there are some, because they earned their respect.

p.s :- I am curious more about Dravid & Sachin, who will make a graceful exit when its time, rather than dropped unceremoniously forever.
 
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Raghav

International Vice-Captain
WC is a must over personal achievements in my book too, but that doesn't mean Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly's career have not been spectacular. If WC was the only measure of spectacular, then players from NZ & ENG should never be called spectacular, but there are some, because they earned their respect.

p.s :- I am curious more about Dravid & Sachin, who will make a graceful exit when its time, rather than dropped unceremoniously forever.

Agreed, but the players of NZ and ENG didnt ever match or ever considered by media as as great as Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly!

Dravid, Ganguly and 10dulkar should retire themselves than being sent out...Idiots still want to play and doesnt want to give youngsters a chance so that they can groom properly by the next WC
 

Hamilton B

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Dont think Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly's career is very spectacular considering they play most of the matches on batsman friendly conditions and its the main reason we see many asian players crossing 10k runs easily...
Useless careers are they without winning a world cup for their country , if you think they r spectacular then u r in wrong trap.
Yes, players like Botham, Donald, Waqar, Hadlee have obviously had useless careers.
 

Raghav

International Vice-Captain
Yes, players like Botham, Donald, Waqar, Hadlee have obviously had useless careers.
Let me tell you that Indian players carry lot of hype and never to be compared with other Country players. I am talking of IND cricketers and I am more terming useless bcoz you cant get all three people in a same team and surprise that they could not win the cup
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
Raghav, honestly, do you do anything else except criticize India and its players? I mean 80-90 percent of your posts are about why India sucks. :blink:

It's getting old, we get the point... :dry:
 
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Raghav

International Vice-Captain
Raghav, honestly, do you do anything else except criticize India and its players? I mean 80-90 percent of your posts are about why India sucks. :blink:

It's getting old, we get the point... :dry:

What should I do? I am not getting no other interesting news other than Indian side poor show.

Try to reciprocate or answer with a good wins. Until then you cant stop me!
 

adharcric

International Coach
Dont think Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly's career is very spectacular considering they play most of the matches on batsman friendly conditions and its the main reason we see many asian players crossing 10k runs easily...
Useless careers are they without winning a world cup for their country , if you think they r spectacular then u r in wrong trap.
Dravid, Tendulkar and Ganguly are not top-class cricketers? :laugh:
 
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maxpower

U19 Cricketer
Agreed, but the players of NZ and ENG didnt ever match or ever considered by media as as great as Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly!

Dravid, Ganguly and 10dulkar should retire themselves than being sent out...Idiots still want to play and doesnt want to give youngsters a chance so that they can groom properly by the next WC
That has more to do with population and supply of other sports entertainment, I mean cricket would probably take up 90% of sports followers in IND, not so in other countries case. The big 3 are not really holding IND back from achieving great heights, you can replace them with 3 new players right now and not much would change probably for worse I'd say. IND peaked its heighest with last world cup in 03, and that IMO was due to IND having 3 bowlers who ended up in top 10 wicket takers for the tourney (bit of luck than talent related). That is not gonna happen with the current lot of bowlers, or anything thats in reserve.
 

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