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Where does Ricky Ponting rank?

honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
KaZoH0lic said:
To clarify, I agree that Tendulkar is better than Ponting - outside of those two I think better than both is Lara. However, the quick generalisations of the periods, the players and those they faced is bothersome. Whilst many will agree that this decade the runs were a bit easier in getting than those in the last, quality batting will always be quality batting. I tend to think that if Ponting had this form in the 90's, he would be doing very very well. How well, well that's speculative, and to each his own.
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I agree with that. And contrary to how it may seem to others here at CW, I really don't think Ponting is bad against spin. Just that he has had a problem in Indian conditions. As a matter of fact, before Martyn became a regular, he was my second favourite Aussie batsman. I was one of the few who cheered his six in Chennai during his horror tour in 2001 off Harbhajan.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
KaZoH0lic said:
I am biased, but this isn't about the green and gold as it is about some people's misgivings.

Tendulkar has had a tough career, but that isn't an excuse really. You insult a player of his stature with that reasoning - especially when the guy comes out himself saying he loves the sport; loves to train; loves to play.
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To be honest, Kazo, the amount of travelling involved between these ODIs, and also the frenetic life style of a cricket star in INdia, should be taken into account. It is not like these guys get much time off. But for his injury lay offs, which mostly have been post 2000, Sachin won't have gotten too much time off.


Tours, or meaningless ODI tournaments, the odd domestic games, endless Ad shoots... You can imagine what it would have been like.


PS: The reason he did so many ads were for money. So, obviously, it was his choice. That has to be considered as well. He could have taken time off during those times instead of shooting ads.


But the point is that, a cricketer in India is constantly in the public eye and that HAS to have some sort of effect, no matter how much one loves the game.
 
silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Jono said:
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My God, Sachin looks hideous in a tie.

Ponting > Lara > Sachin in ties. Gelman's been smoking the pipe if he thinks otherwise.

PS. All three are short. I knew Sachin and Lara were short, but I somehow thought Ponting was a little taller.
 
Johnners

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
honestbharani said:
I agree with that. And contrary to how it may seem to others here at CW, I really don't think Ponting is bad against spin. Just that he has had a problem in Indian conditions. As a matter of fact, before Martyn became a regular, he was my second favourite Aussie batsman. I was one of the few who cheered his six in Chennai during his horror tour in 2001 off Harbhajan.
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Definetly, his 98 (i think it was 98, correct me if i'm wrong though please) tour of Sri Lanka is proof of it. Whilst the majority of the Australia batting Struggled against Murali, Ponting was the only batsmen during the whole tour who consistently was either in a tense struggle with Murali, or got the better of him.
 
Matt79

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Was it Movember when they took that photo? What with the facial hair/stubble on all of them?
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
C_C said:
Disagree. Malcolm-Fraser-Gough-Caddick-Tufnell are about even-par with Flintoff-Harmison-Jones-Giles-Hoggard.
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I'll lay odds that that first 5 never played together, Caddick at 7?!

I also wouldn't say that they were on a par, especially not at the time scale you've stated.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Haven't read all of the CC/Kazo duel, but honestly, to say that Lara was a nobody at 21 is stretching it a bit. But I guess in the strictest sense of the word, as far as international cricket is concerned, he was a nobody, but I am sure in the cricketing circuit in the Windies and by the touring sides of that period, he was already someone with enormous promise.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
My God, Sachin looks hideous in a tie.

Ponting > Lara > Sachin in ties. Gelman's been smoking the pipe if he thinks otherwise.

PS. All three are short. I knew Sachin and Lara were short, but I somehow thought Ponting was a little taller.
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Ponting is about 5'10. which is about 10 inches taller than Sachin who is about 5ft. Lara is also about 5'8 which is 8 inches taller than Sachin.

Tendi is definitely standing on something in that photograph.
 
PhoenixFire

PhoenixFire

International Coach
I have seen those documentary's, and I know perfectly well that being small is better, but I still don't believe that he is only 5 foot.
 
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