Group C - New Zealand, England, Kenya, Canada

[KiWiNiNjA]

No, this game is now NZ's to lose. And unless they pull a Zimbabwe, I can't see that happening.

NZ have been 'pulling Zimbabwe's' for decades now

 

[wpdavid]

I think it's still quite evenly poised actually.

Each to their own, but there's not many pointers to an English win at the moment. The required rate's negligible, and they don't look like getting out. Plus Vaughan's not using our 2 best quicks, despite the obvious need being for wickets at this stage.
Why do you reckon it's evenly poised?

 

[Swervy]

No, this game is now NZ's to lose. And unless they pull a Zimbabwe, I can't see that happening.

one wicket changes this I think...as long as one wicket turns into two wickets

 

[Richard]

But 1 wicket has to happen first...

 

[Richard]

Each to their own, but there's not many pointers to an English win at the moment. The required rate's negligible, and they don't look like getting out. Plus Vaughan's not using our 2 best quicks, despite the obvious need being for wickets at this stage.
Why do you reckon it's evenly poised?

Nationalistic pessimism?

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Nationalistic pessimism?

=Being English/Kiwi

 

[Swervy]

Why do you reckon it's evenly poised?

pressure does strange things, especially in such big games.

England have the runs on the board which counts for something

 

[Richard]

pressure does strange things, especially in such big games.

England have the runs on the board which counts for something

But they don't - there isn't any scoreboard pressure, the run-rate's a piece of piss.

 

[wpdavid]

Going back to an earlier discussion, htf does dalrymple send down wides at his pace?

 

[Swervy]

But 1 wicket has to happen first...

indeed, but 4 have gone already, its not as though its a stroll in the park for NZ.

England didnt look like losing quick wickets at 130-3, 10 mins later it was 7 down!!!

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Going back to an earlier discussion, htf does dalrymple send down wides at his pace?

Come on mate.

Dalrymple is gun with the ball........................when comparing him to Cameron White

 

[Swervy]

But they don't - there isn't any scoreboard pressure, the run-rate's a piece of piss.

its still pressure!!!!!

Look at Zimbabwe last night

 

[Richard]

Going back to an earlier discussion, htf does dalrymple send down wides at his pace?

'Cos he's crap.

With the ball, obviously.

 

[Richard]

indeed, but 4 have gone already, its not as though its a stroll in the park for NZ.

England didnt look like losing quick wickets at 130-3, 10 mins later it was 7 down!!!

But they didn't have the advantage of being the chasing side.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

its still pressure!!!!!

Look at Zimbabwe last night

Or just look at this game. NZ were coasting but...

 

[Scaly piscine]

Is it just me or are NZ timing the ball way better than England?

Seems like all the two-pacedness of the pitch has gone to me.

 

[Richard]

its still pressure!!!!!

Look at Zimbabwe last night

Eh? Ireland-Zimbabwe went down to the last ball!

 

[Richard]

Is it just me or are NZ timing the ball way better than England?

Seems like all the two-pacedness of the pitch has gone to me.

Of course! Everything is conspiring against England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Couldn't possibly be that the New Zealand bowlers are better than the England ones, could it? No, no, that would be completely impossible!

 

[Swervy]

Is it just me or are NZ timing the ball way better than England?

Seems like all the two-pacedness of the pitch has gone to me.

hahaha..its what is call 'England are bowling in a ODI' ..the pitches always seem to sort themselves out when England bowl..oh and the breeze always seems to make the ball drift down the legside as well

 

[Richard]

Or just look at this game. NZ were coasting but...

Target was a bit harder, though.