Smudge
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And in other news ... "Pope declares himself as staunch Catholic".
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Six Nations
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steds
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah. South African bloke. Been around years (must have been atleast 12/13? Only union player I could name at the age of about 7.) Played in the World Cup final, iirc.
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
Don't forget his famous role in the 1995 semi-final.
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Lomu, oh oh Lomu.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Steds/Brumby, do you know anything about Jason Robinson's background and anything about his parents?
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Born in Leeds, mum's Scottish (he was approached to play for Scotland in Union, but happily saw sense) & think his dad was West Indian.
That's about it.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Thanks
Craig
World Traveller
Playing the God Save the Queen at Croke Park I see.
What was the reasoning behind this, an attempt to put the past behind them and move on. I don't understand why people are still cut up over something that happened over 80 years ago, but then that is my basic knowledge on History of Ireland. The way I see it is that you can't change time so there is no point in making a massive issue about it.
That said I'm well aware of the IRA, so if anybody can give more info then I would welcome it.
What was the reasoning behind this, an attempt to put the past behind them and move on. I don't understand why people are still cut up over something that happened over 80 years ago, but then that is my basic knowledge on History of Ireland. The way I see it is that you can't change time so there is no point in making a massive issue about it.
That said I'm well aware of the IRA, so if anybody can give more info then I would welcome it.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
It's just because it's our Rugby Union anthem; we play it everywhere else so I imagine the reasoning is that it would seem like pandering to a few small-minded souls in the GAA for us not to.
Peter Hain (Northern Ireland secretary) did offer to lay a wreath down to commemorate the 14 innocents killed by the British-controlled Black-and-Tans @ Croke in the first Bloody Sunday, but it was decided this would be inappropriate.
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Didn't realise the Irish were part of the Russian Revolution.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
The first Irish one then, pedant. The one in 1920 as opposed to 1972.
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Much better, now I assume that the one in 1972 is the one Bono wrote the song about? I've never known exactly where he got it from.The first Irish one then, pedant. The one in 1920 as opposed to 1972.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
That's always been my assumption; it'd make more sense than the earlier one as Bongo would've been in his formative years in 72.
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Bongo?
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Anyway, flushed with my stunning 1/3 in the second round, I'll have a bash at predicting the outcome of the round 3 games.
Scotland to beat Italy by 15-20 points - I honestly can't see Scotland losing (although I'd almost literally piss myself laughing if they did); the margin of the outcome largely depends on which Italy turn up. If they come out with a narrow, damage-limitation game plan as they did against us it could be relatively close. Paterson is an infinitely more reliable source of points than Scanavacca or de Marigny or Pez or whoever gets to kick their goals, so I see Scotland winning reasonably comfortably whatever happens; if Italy try to play a more expansive game they could be on the end of a proper shoeing though.
Ireland to beat England by 8-10 points - It may be stating the obvious, but Jonny would be a huuuuuuuuuuge miss for us if he's out; not just for his place-kicking (as Farrell's left boot is fairly reliable on that front too), but for the calm he gives us as a play-maker. BoD is back for Ireland, which is a massive boon to any team & I suspect Ireland will have learned to play for 80 minutes rather than 78-and-a-half as they did a week last Sunday. Our best chance is probably to go for an "English" kicking style of Rugby, as our tight-five is far superior to Ireland's (even the usually god-like O'Connell has looked out of sorts) and should dominate up there, but Ashton's inclusion of an out-and-out speedster in David Strettle for the crocked Jase Robinson ahead of more experienced options like Cueto or <sighs> Cohen would suggest we intend to run the ball.
If Flood starts expect to see Catt on as 1st 5/8th by 50 minutes.
France to beat Wales by 12-15 points - Wales actually have a very impressive record over in the Stade de France, but look to be unsettled & whingy just now. Replacing four of their front five from the Scotland game suggests either a manager who doesn't know his best team or a panic move. Wales' achievement on the pitch is usually inversely proportionate to the amount of quotes in the meedja from their ex-greats & there's been a lot of JPRs, JJs, Gareths & Phils in the papers this week.
France, meanwhile, have won 2 from 2 without ever really looking very impressive. Laporte seems to be using the 6 Nations as an extended training exercise with the WC in mind, but his team may well win the tournament on the back of it. Mignoni is a scrum-half of some dynamism & Skrela has looked solid enough at ten.
Scotland to beat Italy by 15-20 points - I honestly can't see Scotland losing (although I'd almost literally piss myself laughing if they did); the margin of the outcome largely depends on which Italy turn up. If they come out with a narrow, damage-limitation game plan as they did against us it could be relatively close. Paterson is an infinitely more reliable source of points than Scanavacca or de Marigny or Pez or whoever gets to kick their goals, so I see Scotland winning reasonably comfortably whatever happens; if Italy try to play a more expansive game they could be on the end of a proper shoeing though.
Ireland to beat England by 8-10 points - It may be stating the obvious, but Jonny would be a huuuuuuuuuuge miss for us if he's out; not just for his place-kicking (as Farrell's left boot is fairly reliable on that front too), but for the calm he gives us as a play-maker. BoD is back for Ireland, which is a massive boon to any team & I suspect Ireland will have learned to play for 80 minutes rather than 78-and-a-half as they did a week last Sunday. Our best chance is probably to go for an "English" kicking style of Rugby, as our tight-five is far superior to Ireland's (even the usually god-like O'Connell has looked out of sorts) and should dominate up there, but Ashton's inclusion of an out-and-out speedster in David Strettle for the crocked Jase Robinson ahead of more experienced options like Cueto or <sighs> Cohen would suggest we intend to run the ball.
If Flood starts expect to see Catt on as 1st 5/8th by 50 minutes.
France to beat Wales by 12-15 points - Wales actually have a very impressive record over in the Stade de France, but look to be unsettled & whingy just now. Replacing four of their front five from the Scotland game suggests either a manager who doesn't know his best team or a panic move. Wales' achievement on the pitch is usually inversely proportionate to the amount of quotes in the meedja from their ex-greats & there's been a lot of JPRs, JJs, Gareths & Phils in the papers this week.
France, meanwhile, have won 2 from 2 without ever really looking very impressive. Laporte seems to be using the 6 Nations as an extended training exercise with the WC in mind, but his team may well win the tournament on the back of it. Mignoni is a scrum-half of some dynamism & Skrela has looked solid enough at ten.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Lead singer from U2 (Irish band, like hair they were big in the 80s); short bloke, mates with Nelson Mandela. Named after a type of drum.
Craig
World Traveller
And how long have you been missing him for?
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I take it you're not a fan?