PhoenixFire
International Coach
I have just noticed that Shaun Pollock is operating about the 920 mark, just 20 points off the record set by Joel Garner, as far as ODI bowling rankings goes, pretty impressive. Do you think he'll get there?
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Pollock closes in on highest ever ODI bowling rating
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While assuming he plays all of the World Cup, then I think the game against Australia i the group stage will decided whether or not he gets there. Before that game South Africa will play Scotland and the Netherlands and if he does play, I doubt his overall ranking will be affected too much becasue of the quality of opposition. It would be nice to see him get there, he's certainly been bowling very well.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
20 points is a lot, especially post 900. I don't think he'll get there.
Scaly piscine
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I think Australia will beat SA because they'll be really wanting to send a message to everyone that they're back. So I'll go no.
jammay123
State 12th Man
i feel he is essential to s.africa and if they are to win the wc hell need to play well which i feel he will. but 920 points will be very hard to reach although if anyone is to beat garners record i hope its him. he has really hit top form after it looked as if his career was on a downward trend fast last year
oz_fan
International Regular
It would be great if he did but I don't think he'll get there even though his bowling form in recent OD games has been great. I could see SA resting him for one of the two games against Scotland and the Netherland which means he'll lose a small percentage of points and then need to rely on putting in good performances against Australia and in the super 8's. He should be able to get to second though as Hadlee is just 3 points away.
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I've seen virtually all SA's games in the last couple of years and his ranking is a joke!
Amongst SA bowlers it's Ntini >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
Pollock is a pale shadow of the bowler he was at his peak and his recent performances are more an indication of the green-tops produced in SA of late
If the pitches produced for the WC are typical WI pitches, expect him to get well and truly burned by the better teams - bowling 1.5 feet outside off at less than 130 ks is not that impressive on flat decks with short boundaries
Amongst SA bowlers it's Ntini >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
Pollock is a pale shadow of the bowler he was at his peak and his recent performances are more an indication of the green-tops produced in SA of late
If the pitches produced for the WC are typical WI pitches, expect him to get well and truly burned by the better teams - bowling 1.5 feet outside off at less than 130 ks is not that impressive on flat decks with short boundaries
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Ntini since the start of 2006:
20 matches
36 wickets
21.61 average
2x5w
28.80 SR
4.48 econ
Pollock since the start of 2006:
26 matches
41 wickets
17.63 average
1x4w and 1x5w
34.5 SR
3.06 econ
Both pretty effective, playing on the same pitches. I'd even say Pollock has been more effective, given that he's been vastly more economical and taken wickets at a great rate too. Yet Ntini is so far superior? Why? Has Ntini been playing on some other pitches? Because apparently he's not the one cashing in on these many greentops.
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Really?
Of the 9 completed ODIs in SA this season, the tourists made 6 scores of 200 or less with only one score in excess of 300. There were also 2 scores of less than 110.
When you consider that a score of 275 is barely a "pass" on SA postage stamp grounds, that gives you a pretty good indication of how poor the wickets were.
The fact is that the SA curators, faced with teams from the sub-continent, produced green-top after green-top knowing that the tourists could not fight fire with fire.
Also, I trust youre aware that many SA commentators, at the beginning of the season, were hoping that Pollock would retire this year as they did not want to see one of SA's favourite sons dropped in the twilight of his career.
He is a shadow of the bowler that he was and, as I said, miles behind Ntini amongst others, IN ANY FORM OF THE GAME.
Scaly piscine
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He is a shadow of what he was but he's still obviously very effective in ODIs.
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And if we filter out the current season where Pollock cashed in to the tune of 19 wickets in 9 games @ 13, then Ntini takes more wickets per match at a lower average
Why? Because Pollock was less effective against better opposition on better wickets
shortpitched713
International Captain
Duh, too suit his argument that Pollock is past it.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Most of us have seen hundreds.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
And Pollock's economy-rate would still be better and hence he'd still have been the better bowler.