CW Football Youth Development Program

[Magrat Garlick]

WHAT? That's crap! The boost would've been vital for all us keepers!

Yeah, it's not like you haven't improved by 5 points more than anyone else in the league already...

 

[Johnners]

Just to address a couple of questions.

During the time of the Academy (between round 15 and 16 ie after the next game) players must post a minimum of once in this thread.

One post signifies attendance and gives the bonuses.

It isnt 1 attribute point per post.

also

Points gained during the Academy cannot all be spent on the same attribute. They must be shared round (at least a little).

So basically, we post once in the appropriate timeframe, noting which attributes we would like to increase.... I'm loving it

 

[Johnners]

WHAT? That's crap! The boost would've been vital for all us keepers!

Adding to what Hakon said...

Is it also fair that Kyle gained around 200-300 points when he let in a total of 11 goals? And i think you yourself gained a large number of points when we put 3 or 4 past you in the one game.

 

[Majin]

Valid idea, good work Goughy.

 

[Goughy]

The reason we are waiting until after the next round to do this is so any small issues can be ironed out before hand.

The current idea is that there is a max that each attribute (Ps, Tk, St) can be increased through attendance to the Academy (see 1st post). However,

Would it be better if the max was set by current attribute values rather than attribute type?

ie
Attributes > 30 two pt max bonus
Attributes > 20 < 30 3 pt max bonus
Attributes < 20 4 pt max bounus

Younger than 21 would still get 5 pts
21-24 would get 3 pts

Obviously the idea is making young players better and not improving players that are already good.

Feedback/Opinions?

 

[Johnners]

Seeing as our aim is to reduce the stat gap between those younger & older players, i'd have to agree with the above

 

[Goughy]

Just a note on the topic on a number of forwards struggling to score goals. (This is purely unnoficial and my own observations)

IMO There are 6 specialist CW forwards in the league. IE Guys with less than 10 on all attributes apart from shooting.
These are Kennett, Smith, Pooja, Dravid, Hutchinson and Gough (sorry if I missed anyone)

The guys that have been struggling to score are not guys I would call specialist forwards. Just because they play there does not make them strikers. If they were they would not have a lot of points on passing and tackling like they do.

I cannot see the logic of spending attribute points on tackiling and passing and then complaining that you can score goals when you play are a striker.

Its not a problem with the sim but with how the player was designed. Effectively guys are being played out of position as they are not pure strikers

 

[Dizzy #4]

Yeah, it's not like you haven't improved by 5 points more than anyone else in the league already...

Well More would've been nice, as I said, when Camp comes, I'm getting a Defending Bonus, so that way, I can double up, but that's still a long way off

 

[Mister Wright]

Excellent idea. Great for the game.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

Under 21 player here. I'd like three on passing and two on tackling please.

 

[roseboy64]

Good idea.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Adding to what Hakon said...

Is it also fair that Kyle gained around 200-300 points when he let in a total of 11 goals? And i think you yourself gained a large number of points when we put 3 or 4 past you in the one game.

Haha, they had 40 shots at goal. Not all on target, but he would've made a fair few saves too I'd guess.

 

[Johnners]

yeah he made 14 saves i think i read, but still, letting in 11 goals, and receiving nearly as many points as a keeper who lets in 1 is a bit of a farce imo

 

[chaminda_00]

Just a note on the topic on a number of forwards struggling to score goals. (This is purely unnoficial and my own observations)

IMO There are 6 specialist CW forwards in the league. IE Guys with less than 10 on all attributes apart from shooting.
These are Kennett, Smith, Pooja, Dravid, Hutchinson and Gough (sorry if I missed anyone)

The guys that have been struggling to score are not guys I would call specialist forwards. Just because they play there does not make them strikers. If they were they would not have a lot of points on passing and tackling like they do.

I cannot see the logic of spending attribute points on tackiling and passing and then complaining that you can score goals when you play are a striker.

Its not a problem with the sim but with how the player was designed. Effectively guys are being played out of position as they are not pure strikers

How can someone not be classified as a striker if their main skill shooting is double their secondary skill. I agree with your point when it comes to guys like Dinu and Dwyer who have high tackling and low shooting. But to say that guys like Thamba, Dave and Currie aren't strikers is a bit stupid considering their shooting is neally double their passing. Also everyone at the start spreaded their points with only Pooja, David and yourself starting as what you call pure forwards. The other three just changed from similar stats to those three at the start of comp. No one really thought when they signed up, not putting everying to shooting will make such a big difference.

If these guys aren't forwards what are they, their not AM, cus the only real AM in this comp are Bugs and Sriram. To be an effective AM you really need 20/20 stats.

 

[chaminda_00]

The reason we are waiting until after the next round to do this is so any small issues can be ironed out before hand.

The current idea is that there is a max that each attribute (Ps, Tk, St) can be increased through attendance to the Academy (see 1st post). However,

Would it be better if the max was set by current attribute values rather than attribute type?

ie
Attributes > 30 two pt max bonus
Attributes > 20 < 30 3 pt max bonus
Attributes < 20 4 pt max bounus

Younger than 21 would still get 5 pts
21-24 would get 3 pts

Obviously the idea is making young players better and not improving players that are already good.

Feedback/Opinions?

I do think this is the best way to go about it

 

[Johnners]

If these guys aren't forwards what are they, their not AM, cus the only real AM in this comp are Bugs and Sriram. To be an effective AM you really need 20/20 stats.

Ahem.... 18/20

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Just a note on the topic on a number of forwards struggling to score goals. (This is purely unnoficial and my own observations)

IMO There are 6 specialist CW forwards in the league. IE Guys with less than 10 on all attributes apart from shooting.
These are Kennett, Smith, Pooja, Dravid, Hutchinson and Gough (sorry if I missed anyone)

The guys that have been struggling to score are not guys I would call specialist forwards. Just because they play there does not make them strikers. If they were they would not have a lot of points on passing and tackling like they do.

I cannot see the logic of spending attribute points on tackiling and passing and then complaining that you can score goals when you play are a striker.

Its not a problem with the sim but with how the player was designed. Effectively guys are being played out of position as they are not pure strikers

I haven't exactly been banging them in...

 

[new_age_ar]

I think it should be noted that I was scoring goals fairly regularly from memory during the pre-season and start of the season. I think Dan was one of the leading goal scorer and even the Stallions boys were scoring the odd goal. We only ever had problems scoring goals once the keepers started increasing at a crazy rate, even if they let in heaps of goals.

I do like the new idea that Goughy put up looks fair for all IMO.

 

[thewizard1o1]

I would very much like to attend the camp to work on a bit of passing (2) and shooting (1).

Very good idea guys

 

[Majin]

The guys that have been struggling to score are not guys I would call specialist forwards. Just because they play there does not make them strikers. If they were they would not have a lot of points on passing and tackling like they do.

I cannot see the logic of spending attribute points on tackiling and passing and then complaining that you can score goals when you play are a striker.

You forget there is a limit on the amount of points you can spend in one attribute. I know for a fact that Pooja signed up as a striker and put all the points she could allocate into shot ability into her shot ability. The others had to be spread out somehow.