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pup11

International Coach
Princey you have just confirmed what i am saying. You said white's bowling has got worse with time, the reason is simple because he never thought he would break in the team with warne, hogg being no.1 in test and odi's respectively.
Due to this he has just neglected his bowling and has just tried to break into the team as a batsman.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Princey you have just confirmed what i am saying. You said white's bowling has got worse with time, the reason is simple because he never thought he would break in the team with warne, hogg being no.1 in test and odi's respectively.
Due to this he has just neglected his bowling and has just tried to break into the team as a batsman.
Which is exactly what he should have done, considering his bowling is not, and has little potential to ever be, international standard.
 

pup11

International Coach
Princey you have just confirmed what i am saying. You said white's bowling has got worse with time, the reason is simple because he never thought he would break in the team on his bowling with warne, hogg being no.1 picks in test and odi's respectively.
Due to this he has just neglected his bowling and has just tried to break into the team as a batsman.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Infinite loop then? Why not..

Princey you have just confirmed what i am saying. You said white's bowling has got worse with time, the reason is simple because he never thought he would break in the team on his bowling with warne, hogg being no.1 picks in test and odi's respectively.
Due to this he has just neglected his bowling and has just tried to break into the team as a batsman.
Which is exactly what he should have done, considering his bowling is not, and has little potential to ever be, international standard.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
IIRC, that's over because of the patriotic pound.

Its the same reason you can currently get 10-1 Inter Milan for the Champions League, but only 7-1 on Man United!

(I got 12-1 Inter :))
IMO it had more to do with bookies not really taking into account the differences in formats, and just going on the Ashes and reputation.

I mean you look at India's odds for the World Cup (now, and especially a year ago), they were often 2nd or 3rd favourite despite indifferent to poor ODI form for a while now. They often have no idea really :p
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
FFS, can't believe we didn't get a bonus point there. Absolutely atrocious fielding.

For the next game, I'd swap Styris for McMillan, Mills for Franklin and depending on the pitch, Gillespie for Patel. Patel was pretty disappointing last night, on a turning pitch he should have done far better than 1-53.
His figures were harsh due to poor firleding. He suffered 2-3 fumbles on the boundary which turned 2s into 4s.
 

howardj

International Coach
a) And that's what White is picked for. The myth that he is picked as a bowler really has to end now. He's picked on the back of good one day domestic performances with the bat, and his ability to score quickly from the moment he gets to the crease (hence his number 7 position.)

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Mate, the point is not what he was picked for, but his true worth. Put simply, on its own, his batting not good enough. By contrast, Hussey and Clarke (leaving aside any other attribute that they bring to the team) are worth their place for their batting alone - whether that be down at seven or, preferably, further up the order.
 

howardj

International Coach
If his bowling is so crap that the captain won't even bowl him, to suggest he was picked for his bowling would be ridiculous. White was picked on the back of his form with the bat in the domestic competition and his ability to score quickly down the order - nothing more.
I think he was also picked with the hope that he could bowl a few overs (ala Symonds and Clarke) if need should arise. Need has arisen, and Ponting has judged him not up to the task.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Mate, the point is not what he was picked for, but his true worth. Put simply, on its own, his batting not good enough. By contrast, Hussey and Clarke (leaving aside any other attribute that they bring to the team) are worth their place for their batting alone - whether that be down at seven or, preferably, further up the order.
Considering he has only played a few games, I think it may be a bit early to judge how good or useful his batting is. When the situation has arisen, he has played one or two very good and explosive knocks down the order. I think he is good enough on batting alone - certainly looking a better option than Brad Hodge or Mark Cosgrove at #7...

I support his selection at the moment, although I'm fairly sure he'll get the boot once Watson returns.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
I dont think White is actually needed in the current AUS squad. I think they are fine without him. I mean what real opportunities will he get with the bat with the strength of the Australian batting line-up? He could be handy in bowling if everything is going wrong but they havn't even let hime bowl much at all since hes been selected and IMO both Clarke and Symonds are good enough as fill in the overs bowlers.
 

ripper868

International Coach
White is a bit wasted at the moment, perhaps bringing in an extra bowler so there are no "fill in" overs? possibly hilfenhaus or tait? prefer to bring in a younger bowler.
 

pup11

International Coach
Yeah i also don't think that white's batting is being used properly, at the number he comes to bat at he hardly gets any batting time, he just scores 20 or 30 runs, instead of that i would opt for an all-rounder or a bowler so there are no-fill in overs.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
We wont get replaced with a bowler, Australia are already playing 4 specialist bowlers and a specialist bat would be abit wasted down that far, White is a bloke who can score quickly at the end of an innings and field well - as well as bowl a few overs as required. Ponting seems to lack faith in his bowling at the current stage though - will be interesting to see if he gets more of a bowl in the other dead games.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
"Paul Nixon is the best wicketkeeper in the world at the moment."
~ Rashid Latif

He has got to be kidding, hasn't he?
 

pup11

International Coach
What Rashid latif says is not even worth talking about as he is that dumb. As for tomorrow's game Tait would make his debut, lee and johnson will rest as clark comes in for johnson. Bad news for england vaughan out of the series and anderson is flying back home due to his injury.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
"Paul Nixon is the best wicketkeeper in the world at the moment."
~ Rashid Latif

He has got to be kidding, hasn't he?
Nixon's been keeping for almost 20 years, his glovework (which Latif is obviously referring to) is clearly going to be sublime. I haven't seen Nixon stuff up yet.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Nixon's been keeping for almost 20 years, his glovework (which Latif is obviously referring to) is clearly going to be sublime. I haven't seen Nixon stuff up yet.
I thought he was absolutely terrible in the first CB series game. Improved a bit since then though.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Nixon's been keeping for almost 20 years, his glovework (which Latif is obviously referring to) is clearly going to be sublime. I haven't seen Nixon stuff up yet.
What about the first over he kept to? It was awful.

His keeping isn't that bad - it's better than Jones's for example - but it's by no means the best in the world.
 

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