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***Official*** India in South Africa

Slow Love™

Slow Love™

International Captain
sideshowtim said:
It sounded like an order to me. Harper should've kept his mouth shut. It was up to Smith whether to decide to appeal or not. What Harper said definitely would've pressured Smith not to appeal. I mean how many of you would appeal after an official said that to you?

Smith was very entitled to appeal however Harper kind of pressured him out of it. Another piece of poor and irresponsible umpiring.
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You heard what he said?

Anyway, it's poor umpiring in the first place if they didn't fulfil their obligations to notify India as to Tendulkar's ability to be on the field, no argument there. Further than that, the request that in the spirit of the game, Smith show an understanding that the error was theirs and not India playing funny buggers, if made, is probably fair enough and common sense. Strictly IMO, of course.
 
Slow Love™

Slow Love™

International Captain
Anyway, despite the early wickets, India's position is still strong. 100 up and eight wickets in hand. I feel a bit sorry for Sehwag, 'cause I would imagine the whole point of him being restored to the opening position after Jaffer and Karthik's success in the first innings had to be for pinch-hitting purposes. Just didn't come off.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Slow Love™ said:
Anyway, despite the early wickets, India's position is still strong. 100 up and eight wickets in hand. I feel a bit sorry for Sehwag, 'cause I would imagine the whole point of him being restored to the opening position after Jaffer and Karthik's success in the first innings had to be for pinch-hitting purposes. Just didn't come off.
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I disagree. With so many overs to go, why would you send any one to pinch hit? It would be a ridiculous game plan.
 
Dravid

Dravid

International Captain
sideshowtim said:
Shouldn't have to appeal. The umpires would've been aware of what exactly was going on. Do you have to appeal for a bowled? No. This is the same. It was very clear that he was out, over 3 minutes had elapsed. Very poor umpiring.
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Are you for real? How are they going to give it out if saf didn't care them self.
 
adharcric

adharcric

International Coach
News just in. Pathan scored a match-winning 82 to help Baroda defeat UP. Served up rubbish with the ball though. :laugh:
 
Dasa

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
DaBombayDuck said:
Gambhir, Badrinath, Rohit Sharma
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Regarding Gambhir and Badrinath, just about justifiable, but you're forgetting that the old-timers (Laxman, Ganguly, Tendulkar) have probably been the best three Indian batsmen this tour. As for Sharma...he's all of 19 years old and has played eight FC games. Talented, but unproven and nowhere near ready for Tests yet.
 
Slow Love™

Slow Love™

International Captain
Pratyush said:
I disagree. With so many overs to go, why would you send any one to pinch hit? It would be a ridiculous game plan.
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I agree, but why'd they do it otherwise? They finally got a decent opening partnership (of 150, no less) and then they go and tamper with it the very next innings. I suppose they might have wanted to give Karthik a rest, but you'd think if so they'd have moved somebody like Gangs up the order when they'd deliberately moved Sehwag down the order in response to his struggling.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The amount Rohit Sharma has been hyped up so early in his career in certain quarters is not funny.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Slow Love™ said:
I agree, but why'd they do it otherwise? They finally got a decent opening partnership (of 150, no less) and then they go and tamper with it the very next innings. I suppose they might have wanted to give Karthik a rest, but you'd think if so they'd have moved somebody like Gangs up the order when they'd deliberately moved Sehwag down the order in response to his struggling.
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They probably thought of giving Sehwag one last chance or some thing. Karthik may well have been asked to open as a one off thing or to wear off the new ball in inning 1. As the batting in this inning was limited to an extent by overs, the feeling probably was that if Sehwag batted and hung on, it could mean some quickers runs than Karthik would bring to the table because of the faster SR of Sehwag.
 
adharcric

adharcric

International Coach
Good stuff from Harper. Classy explanation.

EDIT: Rauf follows up by confirming what I said earlier. Umpires' responsibility to inform them of the time. SST, where the hell are you now?
 
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